Dave3421
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Then I am within range. I just wanted a few opinions.
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avvidclif1
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Dave3421 wrote:Then I am within range. I just wanted a few opinions.
Yep, looks like you are good for weight police. I don't know anything about the 5.3l engine but coupled with a 3.42 rear end you might be wishing for a lower rear end ratio or a bigger engine in Colorado. Especially when the air gets thin. Only way to know is try it. Take a road trip down to I10 around Kerrville and see how it does on those grades. That will give you an idea. While there stop at Buckhorn RV Park. Very nice park right off of I10.
Go I35E to Belton then 190 West to 281 and then South to San Antonio and West on I10. It will tell you a lot about your combo.
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JohnBoyToo
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Cummins12V98 wrote:You probably won't even add 100# to your front axle loaded. With 4,500# pin weight of that only 100# goes to my front axle. I have my B&W hitch full forward.
Why do you need sway bars? Are you going to haul a slide in camper?
Nope,
just because I wanted one.
(and it was the last thing I could get thrown in on the new truck deal once I rung out as much discount as I could![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile") )
I did notice a bit of side to side on my last tow so interested to see if it improves...
know it will improve the around town handling - I won't have to borrow the wife's sports car
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rhagfo
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JohnBoyToo wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:You probably won't even add 100# to your front axle loaded. With 4,500# pin weight of that only 100# goes to my front axle. I have my B&W hitch full forward.
Why do you need sway bars? Are you going to haul a slide in camper?
Nope,
just because I wanted one.
(and it was the last thing I could get thrown in on the new truck deal once I rung out as much discount as I could )
I did notice a bit of side to side on my last tow so interested to see if it improves...
know it will improve the around town handling - I won't have to borrow the wife's sports car
Biggest question is Why Not a Sway Bar? My 01 has one as part of the Camper Package, wouldn't mind if it was a bit bigger, no issues with sway, but isn't bigger always better??
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Cummins12V98
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rhagfo wrote:JohnBoyToo wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:You probably won't even add 100# to your front axle loaded. With 4,500# pin weight of that only 100# goes to my front axle. I have my B&W hitch full forward.
Why do you need sway bars? Are you going to haul a slide in camper?
Nope,
just because I wanted one.
(and it was the last thing I could get thrown in on the new truck deal once I rung out as much discount as I could )
I did notice a bit of side to side on my last tow so interested to see if it improves...
know it will improve the around town handling - I won't have to borrow the wife's sports car
Biggest question is Why Not a Sway Bar? My 01 has one as part of the Camper Package, wouldn't mind if it was a bit bigger, no issues with sway, but isn't bigger always better??
The reason I asked is because my 98 Ram 4X4 has one and it is very stable side to side. My 11 Dually does not have one and it is stable side to side. I assumed they did something to the newer suspensions that made it to where they were not needed as much.
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Cummins12V98
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Ok here are my latest numbers.
Truck
Front 5,180
Rear 8,780
Total 13,940
RV
Front 6,390
Rear 7,540
Total 14,300
Combined total 28,240#
2011 Ram HO 4X4 Dually Longhorn CC 3:42 Mobile Suites 2007.5 36SB3
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JohnBoyToo
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NOT a fair comparison between srw and drw as far as sway bar needed or not...
mine is srw and it wasn't NEEDED, just that I like it to handle corners better and from experience a sway bar makes your vehicle feel more 'planted'...
(but then you need to make sure everything is tied down better so it won't go sliding across the dash on those faster turns )
I've done sway bars on sports cars AND trucks - just personal preference that I like the handling improvements !
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GPG52!
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2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab, 5.7 Hemy, 3.73 ratio
2010 KZ Durango 275 fifth wheel
Tow Vehicle TV
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating GVWR 8,510 lbs
Payload 1,981 lbs
Actual Pin Weight 1,320 18%
Dry Weight Empty Weight n/a
Wet Weight Fuel, driver 7,320 lbs
Cub Weight No personal gear GCW 7,020 lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating GAWR Steering 5,200; Drive 6,010lbs
Length Overall LOA 16" 0'
5th WHEEL COACH RV
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating GVWR 8,800 lbs
Axle Weight Rating AWR 1st 4,400,2nd 4,400
Curb Weight Empty Weight GCW 6,890 lbs
Wet Weight water, LP GAS 7,240 lbs
Payload 350 lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating Loaded GAWR 1st 3,540, 2nd 3,700
Length Overall LOA 29' 4"
COMBINED
Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating 17,310 lbs
Actual Gross Comb. Vehicle Weight Rating GCWR14,560 lbs
Length Overall LOA 44' 10"
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ependydad
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TV: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 DRW w/ 4.10 gears
Camper: Early model-year 2013 Sabre 36QBOK
Weighing just prior to a 3-week trip (2 weeks camping, 1 week at a beach house). I had just filled both propane tanks and was carrying my usual 1/3-1/2 tank of freshwater as well as carrying our usual/quite a bit of drinking water (2 cases of bottled water and 7.5 gallons in jugs).
In the truck, we had myself, my wife, her mother and 2 kids (9 and 1). The truck bed was pretty full with beach stuff, EZ-up and my ladder:
![[image]](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5yPkeKU8dUY/UgDbyrMYqEI/AAAAAAAABAQ/iz3N6kvjB8c/s200/Full+Truck+Bed.jpg)
The tickets:
![[image]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6O4qPVttSaE/UgDc4mG2pFI/AAAAAAAABAk/mWlwx-AgPVs/s320/photo+1.JPG)
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Totals:
Truck Weight when Hitched Up:
5,300 + 6,660 + 75 = 12,035 pounds (GVWR: 12,300)
Pin Weight:
(5,300 + 6,600) - 9,420 = 2,540 pounds
Camper Weight:
12,280 + 2,540 = 14,820 pounds (GVWR: 15,825 pounds)
Pin Weight Percentage:
2,540 / 14,820 = 17%
Gross Combined Weight:
24,240 pounds (GCWR: 28,000 pounds)
Length over all: 58 1/2'
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Tireman9
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ependydad wrote:TV: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 DRW w/ 4.10 gears
Camper: Early model-year 2013 Sabre 36QBOK
Weighing just prior to a 3-week trip (2 weeks camping, 1 week at a beach house). I had just filled both propane tanks and was carrying my usual 1/3-1/2 tank of freshwater as well as carrying our usual/quite a bit of drinking water (2 cases of bottled water and 7.5 gallons in jugs).
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Totals:
Truck Weight when Hitched Up:
5,300 + 6,660 + 75 = 12,035 pounds ( GVWR: 12,300)
Pin Weight:
(5,300 + 6,600) - 9,420 = 2,540 pounds
Camper Weight:
12,280 + 2,540 = 14,820 pounds ( GVWR: 15,825 pounds)
Pin Weight Percentage:
2,540 / 14,820 = 17%
Gross Combined Weight:
24,240 pounds ( GCWR: 28,000 pounds)
Length over all: 58 1/2'
I note you didn't mention your tire size & LR. Am I correct to assume ST235/85R16 LR-E ?
Also that you set to 80 psi cold each morning of travel.
and that the load split Axle to axle is 46/54 or better
and side to side on heavy axle is 46/54 or better?
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