kc81c
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avvidclif1 wrote:Everything looks great but do me a favor and look at the side of your tires. Specifically for max towing speed. Most show 65mph. YMMV
The second thing I did to our camper after figuring out a major electrical problem was replace the factory 15" ST load range D tires and wheels with load range E LT 16" tires and wheels. So no worry on the speed rating of the tires.
2013 Ram 2500 Megacab 6.7L
2011 Heartland Sundance XLT 285BH
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kc81c wrote:Finally got around to posting this. Combo is a 2011 F250 Crew Cab Short Box 4x4 6.7L with a B&W companion hitch. GVWR of 10k, front axle 5600 GAWR, rear 6100 GAWR. The fifth wheel is a 2011 Heartland Sundance XLT 285BH listed as 31ft with a empty weight of 7200 pounds and a GVWR of 10000#s. It was the wife 2 kids and I in the pickup 2 dogs in the camper all our clothes, food, full propane, few tools ect basically ready to camp. The only odd thing when weighing was we had been camping at the inlaws yard that had no place to dump and we were heading to the lake lot were we have no easy water but a place to dump. So we had the black, grey 1, and fresh tank full and the grey 2 tank half full roughly a total of 150 gallons so around 1200 pounds and I usually try to travel with the fresh half full and the waste tanks empty. My weights are as follows.
Front Axle 4800#
Rear Axle 5360#
Front Trailer 3640#
Rear Trailer 3560#
Tow Vehicle Total 10160
Trailer Total 7200
As you can see I'm over my GVWR on the pickup by 160# but could easily be fixed by not filling all the tanks full or moving some of the tools from the front of the trailer to the back. Otherwise I have a lot of room to spare on trailer GVWR, GAWR, and GCWR. Pulling the trailer at 70mph I get around 11.5mpg with 3:55 gear ratio.
I got a PM about the way I weighed. I think they were refering to the lack of an unhitched pickup weight. So I ran over a scale again my unhitched but loaded with the family, fuel, hitch ect was 8360 so that puts me at a pin weight of 1800 pounds. Right at the trailer gvwr but like I said it was a worst possible situation and would be easy to drop 600-900 pounds. Also with some searchin I found my campers frame tag and pin box tag both are rated at 15500# gvwr. The factory load range D tires would have limited the axles to 5k each. I intend to do some more looking I'm curious if the are actually 5k or 7k axles now. I hope this clarifies the missing info. Its pretty easy for me to run over a scale as the local elevator we mostly use is only a few miles away.
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avvidclif1
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Interesting. I have a 2009 F350 SRW Crew Cab.
Ratings:
Front 5,000
Rear 6,693
GVWR 11,000
Front axle was down and rear way up. Go figure. My trailer is the Crossroads version of what you have. Nice setup...
Great on the tires, mine came with the 16" E rated.
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2009 Ford F350 SRW CC Lariat 6.4 Diesel
2015 Heartland Cyclone HD CY3418 Toy Hauler
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Granted
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Limits:
GVWR/ 11,200
F GAWR/ 4850
R GAWR/ 8250
GCWR/ 20,000
Truck without fiver:
F axle 4500
R axle 3520
GVW 8020
Packed for 3 month trip - 2012 Silverback 33L 37 ft fiver
F GAWR 4560
R GAWR 6140
Trailer axle 9720 pin weight 2620
GCWR 20420
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2012 Cedar Creek Silverback 33L
2000 F350 XLT LA West Custom DRW 7.3 PSD
B&W Turnover w/ 18k Companion Hitch
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Just short reminder: The free 13 point and printable 5th Wheel/Gooseneck Truck & Trailer Weight Safety Report is available at FWS. You plug in the numbers and then "Click to process."
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08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012
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JohnBoyToo
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Just an observation....
while this thread is an excellent idea...
there really is too much "fluff" (typing ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin") ) to be used as a data source,
too many formats,
too many variables,
too many MISSING data points,
difficult to find what you want...
be glad to pull it together in an Excel workbook or database of some type if someone wants to collect the data.... and stick to ONE format always ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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Cummins12V98
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Hit the DOT scales in WA today heading south to SoCal for the winter.
Truck and RV in sig.
Front axle 5,140#
Rear axle 8,460#
Loaded truck weight 13,600#
Trailer axles 14,140#
Combined weight 27,740#
Hand calc 9.3 mpg with some stop and go thru Seattle and a lot of stop and go thru Portland.
Speed was 60-62 mph.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"
"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600
2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable
2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD
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Traveler II
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Trailer R Front 3,230
Trailer R Rear 3,185 6,415
Trailer L Front 2,840
Trailer L Rear 2,780 5,620 795 Right side weight more
Total Axel Weight 12,035 Loaded, 1/3 water empty gray and black tanks
Total Truck & Trailer 22,440
Truck Weight 7,780
Trailer Weight 14,660
Pin Weight 2,625
% Pin Weight 18%
Truck & Pin Weight 10,405
Trailer Dry Weight 11,680
Est Cargo Weight 2,980
Trailer Height 13' 2"
2011 Cameo 34SB3
2014 Ford 350 King Ranch, Trailer Saver BD3 Air Hitch, Mor/Ryde pin box, IS Suspension, Disk Brakes
Nights Camped in 2012 - 142
Nights Camped in 2013 - 186
Nights Camped in 2014 - 185
Nights Camped in 2015 - 231
Nights Camped in 2016 - 162
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We just got a 2012 Ford F250 diesel crew cab short bed. Then bought a 2012 Montana 3150 RL. With a pull rite sliding hitch. Husband wants to add extra fuel tanks. When we tried to calculate the weight measurements to see if we could add the tanks, we find that our king pin weight is more than the rated payload. The Montana Gross weight (shipping weight + carry weight) is 14,160 lbs. hitch weight 2160 lbs. the truck GVWR is 10,000 lbs. the cargo weight is not suppose to exceed 1,661 lbs. We see lots of F250s towing Montana and similar size 5ers. What are we doing wrong trying to figure out the weights??
Thank you.
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rhagfo
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As one who is not in line with the weight police. I have an 01 Ram 2500 pulling an 05 Copper Canyon at 11K. Exceeds GVWR by about 1,000# but still under GAWR by 1K.
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2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#
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