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CarNDen

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Posted: 09/15/07 12:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

TV: 06 Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab 2WD, LT1, 6 Litre (gas), Automatic,
4.10 Rear, 6.5Ft bed, Factory Tow pkg, Reese 16K Slider hitch.
GCVWR 16,000
Listed Max Trailer Weight 10,100
Truck Wt 6,328 (2 people, 2 Dogs, 2 Birds)
Actual max Trailer Weight 9,672

Trailer: 06 Cougar 291RLS 5th Wheel
GVWR 11,000
Listed Dry Wt 8,125
As Delivered Dry wt 8,375
Listed Carry Capacity 2,875
As Delivered Carry Capacity 2,191

Our Actual wts (typical 2 day outing)
Gross Combined Wt 15,580
TV Front Axle wt 3,440
TV Drive Axle wt 4,680
Trailer Axle Wt 7,460
Trailer Wt 9,252
Pin Wt 1,792

portscanner

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Posted: 09/15/07 05:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

How about a smaller trailer?

F250 Crew Cab 6' bed 6.0PSD
Work and Play 18LT

Weighed on the way out on the trip with DW, dogs, food, fuel, water, golf cart and beer.

Front axle: 3740
Rear axle: 3240 (unhitched)
Tongue: 1220
Trailer axle: 6280

From the door post on the F250:
GVWR 8800
Front 4670 GAWR
Rear 6084 GAWR

From the sticker on the trailer
GVWR 7700
UVW 4560

We are about to go buy a WW SL2805. I will post the weights when I get it.


One beautiful wife
Mattie and Trooper the furcampers
2019 Dodge 4500 with 2008 Lance 1181
2015 Jeep Wrangler toad w/ ReadyBrake/Brute
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JohnOH327

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Posted: 09/15/07 06:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

TV
2004 Chevy 4500 Kodiak w/Monroe pickup bed
6.6 Duramax, 5 speed Allison, Edge w/ Attitude programmer
100 gal fuel cap., AirRide hitch, lots of tools
Scale weight with 2 people...11200 lbs.

Trailer
2003 Holiday Rambler Presidential 36SKQ 37 ft.
Generac 40g gen-set, W/D, 4 battery bank.
5 x 8 swivel wheel motorcycle trailer mounted behind 5th wheel.

Motorcycle
1986 Honda 1100 Shadow

Total Scale Weight for truck and trailer....30,000 lbs OUCH !!!!!


John & Doni "NO MO SNOW" Full-Timing since 2005
2004 Chevy 4500 Kodiak Duramax w/ 25k AirRide hitch, Jordan 2020
2003 HR Presidential 36SKQ 5th wheel Quad slide My Pics
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Bluegrass Bassman

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Posted: 09/16/07 05:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It certainly would be beneficial to see the actual, operating weights to include PIN weights vs the listed weights from the manufacturer on any given rig.


Gary P. Johnston
2007 Montana 3000RK
2008 Ford F350 Lariat, Extended cab, Short bed, PSD, SRW .

SKOOBDO

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Posted: 09/16/07 10:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

After recalculating my CAT Scale receipts the following numbers are the results. Both TV and Trailer were loaded for fulltiming, including 3/4 water, fuel, and propane.

Tow Vehicle: 2006 F350 Diesel DWR CC 4x4 4:10 gears
Actual Weight: 8,520 lbs
GVWR 13,000lbs GCVW 23,500lbs


Trailer: 2006 Montana 38ft. Actual Weight 13,960 lbs
GVWR 13,855

Pin Weight: 2,720 lbs
Manf. Brochure "Dry Hitch Weight" 1885 lbs

TOTAL Weight of Trailer and Truck: 22,480 lbs


Since weighing my unit I've removed a bunch of junk, but haven't had it weighed again.


2005 F350 LARIAT LE CREWCAB POWERSTROKE TURBO DIESEL DUALLY, OXFORD WHITE, 4X4, TOW COMMAND,C-BETR,16K REESE HITCH, ACCESS TONNEAUCOVER, VORTEX SPRAY IN LINER,

2006 MONTANA 3500RL
MorRyde Suspension and Pin Box. Yamaha EF2400IS

RogerMo

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Posted: 09/16/07 06:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

2005 Chevy Silverado 2x4, 6.0 engine, 4.10 rear in. Weight 6400 full tank, 2 people.
2007 Jayco Jayflight RKS 28.5 ft. Weight 8620 for my travel
can go to 9200
Total 15,020 can go to 16,500


K.A.
05 2500HD Silverado 6.0L 4.10 rear end
2007 Jayco JayFlight 28.5 with Equa Flex


donn0128

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Posted: 09/18/07 02:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Last rig;
2004 Chevy 4X4 extended cab D/A weight ready to camp minus trailer 7500 pounds
Loaded with trailer 10,500 pounds
Trailer 2005 Cedar Creek 34CKTS fifth wheel weight on the wheels 10,350
New truck;
2007 Dodge quad cab Cummins/6 speed automatic Down the road ready to camp weight 6900 pounds Hooked to the trailer 10,300 pounds.
All weights from state of Oregon truck scales.





Bad Habit

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Posted: 09/18/07 05:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Truck is with me, wife, 2 kids, and full fuel (39 gal)
Trailer is no liquids, 4 quads, all gear, food/beverage for 3 days

Truck 05 F350 CC DRW 4WD 6.0 Auto
Trailer 02 Thor Tahoe 33WTB


Truck Only Weight Rating Over/Under
Front Axle 4960 6000 -1040
Rear Axle 3700 9000 -5300

Truck GVW 8660 13000 -4340



Truck & Trailer
Front Axle 5000 6000 -1000
Rear Axle 5840 9000 -3160
Trailer Axle(s) 7860 12000 -4140

Truck GVW 10840 13000 -2160
Trailer GVW 10040 13500 -3460

Hitch Pin 2180

Total (GCVW) 18700 23500 -4800


BTW, I've made an excel spreadsheet that you just enter your ratings, and the actual axle weights. Anyone can get the ratings off the truck/trailer stickers and the weights off the scale ticket. Calcs the pin weight and over/under (gives a green/yellow/red indicator). It would probably help anyone that gets confused from all the different numbers. If anyone would like it, just hit me up.


2005 F-350 CC DRW 4WD 6.0
2002 Tahoe 33WTB FW
2005 TRX450R
2002 TRX400EX
2003 Kasea90
2005 Kasea90

AZSTORK

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Posted: 09/19/07 02:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Actual CAT Scale weights:
TV = 2005 F-350 Lariat 4x4 CrewCab Long Bed SRW with 80-90 gal Diesel, driver, Hitch Front 4940 Rear 3720 Total 8660

2005 McKenzie Medallion 36RLT 70 gal water, full propane, empty waste tanks, "normal" gear hitched to truck Front 4940 Rear 6600 Trailer Axles 11500

Thus, Pin weight = 2880, Total trailer weight = 14380

GCVW = 23040 GCVWR = 23000


So I was over by 40 pounds - I now travel with less fuel and empty water - will be looking at an F-450 when we go full-time - I would like more capacity and DRW.

* This post was edited 09/19/07 03:38pm by AZSTORK *


Gary & Debi

2006 Holiday Rambler Ambassador 40 DFD, Saf-TTE TPMS
2008 Jeep Wrangler X Unlimited, Blue Ox, US Gear Unified Tow Brake


N3YMY

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Posted: 09/19/07 11:59pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've pulled this camper with two trucks, so I have data for both.

Detailed, but simple:

2006 Keystone Cougar 289EFS (twin axle)
4400 GAWR (per axle)
10345 GVWR

8355 Claimed dry GVW (includes pin)
1500 Claimed dry pin
9020 Scaled GVW at delivery (with full water; 45 gals; includes pin)
1460 Scaled pin at delivery

Pulled by 2002 Ford F350 7.3L XLT DRW LB:
4970 Front GAWR
8200 Rear GAWR
11500 GVWR
20000 CGWR

No camper (with driver only)
4980 Front GAW
3880 Rear GAW

With camper (with driver +1; ready to camp)
4980 Front GAW, truck
5700 Rear GAW, truck
4040 Front GAW, camper
3860 Rear GAW, camper
10680 Truck GVW (limit 11500)
7900 Camper CGAW (limit 8800)
18580 CGVW (limit 20000)

Pulled by 2006 GMC Sierra D/A SLT DRW LB:
4800 Front GAWR
8200 Rear GAWR
11400 GVWR
23500 CGWR

No camper (with driver only)
4260 Front GAW
3160 Rear GAW

With camper (with driver +1; ready to camp)
4680 Front GAW, truck
5520 Rear GAW, truck
4260 Front GAW, camper
4180 Rear GAW, camper
10200 Truck GVW (limit 11400)
8440 Camper CGAW (limit 8800)
18640 CGVW (limit 23500)

Actual wet pin with the GMC is 1840; never measured with the Ford...

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