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Posted: 03/28/07 11:25am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks for clearing that up!


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Posted: 03/28/07 10:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Little Kopit wrote:


To repeat: US. pet food is regulated, Canadian is not
I heard that on CBC and after following CBC radio for many a year, I have to say there is a lot of credibility in everything they do. I trust that kind of information.

I also have faith in CBC's reporting. I quote it often, and provided a link to one of their reports on this thread.

The CBC stated, "U.S. Food and Drug Administration investigates pet food safety scares". Yes, the FDA investigates pet food safety scares. It does not regulate ingredients.

Another well-respected medium, USA Today has this report (see the article for the full report, these are excerpts only, with bold added for emphasis):
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-21-cover-pet-food_N.htm:
Q: Who's responsible for ensuring the safety of pet food?
A: The FDA and state feed program officials regulate the industry, but it's largely self-policing. That's also true of much of the human food industry, but the slaughter and processing of meat for human consumption is more heavily regulated. Pet food companies set their own standards for testing raw ingredients and finished products, Aldrich says.
Q: So the FDA doesn't have inspectors in pet food plants?
A: Not always. In the case of Menu Foods, FDA inspectors had never set foot inside the Kansas plant until this incident. "Their priority is human food and human safety," Aldrich says.



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Thanks Sue, that's clarifying things.

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Posted: 03/30/07 09:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

FDA Testing Reveals Chemical in Pet Food

WASHINGTON Mar 30, 2007 (AP)— Recalled pet foods contained a chemical used to make plastics, but government tests failed to confirm the presence of rat poison, federal officials said Friday.

The Food and Drug Administration said it found melamine in samples of the Menu Foods pet food, as well as in wheat gluten used as an ingredient. Cornell University scientists also have found the chemical, sometimes used as a fertilizer, in the urine of sick cats, as well as in the kidney of one cat that died after eating the company's wet food.
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The apparently melamine-contaminated wheat gluten also was shipped to an unnamed company that manufactures dry pet food. The FDA is attempting to determine if that product, imported from China, was used to make any pet food, Sundlof said. There is no risk to human food, he told reporters.


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Posted: 03/30/07 02:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BCSnob wrote:

There is no risk to human food, he told reporters.


That's NOT what CNN sort of implied a little while ago - they hinted that the tainted wheat gluten *could* have been used in human food, also?? That at the moment, nobody knows for sure....

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Posted: 03/30/07 04:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The more they do research and analysis the more they find.. Just take the bag of your pet food and see the listing of all the ingredients..Rest assured they will find more..
Read HERE and HERE

Iam's isn't clean either... read HERE

ps disclaimer .. I have nothing to do with PETA and do not agree with some of their practices..However, some issues they raise are on target...


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Ngataki wrote:

The more they do research and analysis the more they find.. Just take the bag of your pet food and see the listing of all the ingredients..Rest assured they will find more..
Read HERE and HERE

Iam's isn't clean either... read HERE

ps disclaimer .. I have nothing to do with PETA and do not agree with some of their practices..However, some issues they raise are on target...


I've been following this rather closely, since I feed Iams dry food. The FDA sent a warning letter to Iams because it was using a chemical in its Diet Food that wasn't approved for dogs. The product was Chromium Tripicolinate. I know that Chromium Picolinate is a COMMON diet supplement taken by humans. Either Iams is merely in trouble for using a "human product" in their dog food....or.... anyone using Chromium supplements for themselves had better inquire why the FDA says it's not good for dogs.....

And so far, the culprit in the deaths of the pets appears to have been tainted wheat gluten. At this point - it looks like it's tainted with at least a FEW things.... but I just read the label on my dog food, and wheat gluten is NOT listed as an ingredient in the regular, green-bag Iams.

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Just got an e-mail from P&G (Iams and Eukanuba) here are a few sentences..

First, there is no melamine or aminopterin in any of our Iams and Eukanuba dry pet foods on store shelves.

In fact, Iams and Eukanuba dry pet foods to DO NOT contain wheat gluten. Our dry dog and cat foods are made exclusively by P&G Pet Care and not by Menu Foods.


Now this entire industry is taken over by lawyers..So each word and sentence is "well" crafted to withstand all legal scrutiny...

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Posted: 03/30/07 06:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Now Hill's Pet Nutrition is also recalling some of its dry pet food.. What blows my brains out is the following..

"We are fully cooperating with the FDA" and are using this "precautionary" measure because during a 2 months period early 2007 we used the same wheat gluten supplier as used by Menu Foods.."

My answer..

They just realized NOW they had the same supplier.. I tell you.. this behavior is criminal....

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The only form of Hill's dry food being recalled at this time is Prescription diet m/d - a feline diet used mostly for diabetic cats.


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