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tomkatzid

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Posted: 03/25/07 10:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

At 9pm tonight our vet called and said Nina was just fine. The other 2 girls ate it too, but less. So we didn't have them tested as they didn't show any signs. Nina threw up for a couple days and we thought that we had better get her checked. But she passed with flying colors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, I heard about a more blanket recall last night.

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tomkatzid wrote:

At 9pm tonight our vet called and said Nina was just fine. The other 2 girls ate it too, but less. So we didn't have them tested as they didn't show any signs. Nina threw up for a couple days and we thought that we had better get her checked. But she passed with flying colors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Katz


Great news! I'm happy to hear she is well. You must be so relieved.


Okay..now what's this about the "moist" food. Is this also food in gravy...or the sort of mix of moist and dry..?

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59022 wrote:

http://www.outoftheearth.com/petfood.htm
"Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) carried in pig- and chicken-laden foods may eventually eclipse the threat of "mad cow disease". The risk of household pet exposure to TSE from contaminated pet food is more than three times greater than the risk for hamburger-eating humans."

BSE & TSE gives me the willies.... It's a good thing my sheep & bison eat only grass, that we know has never been fertilized nor sprayed.


They give me the willies, too, because high temperatures don't seem to kill it. But your "organic" grazing isn't preventing your animals from being exposed - the disease is caused by a thing called a "prion" - it's not a bacteria or a virus. Deer get a similar prion-based disease called Chronic Wasting Disease (and the Human form is called Kreutzfeld-Jacob Disease)......and I'm not sure if they can share that with your grazers or not....but it's something to be aware of.

Basically, the prions eat holes in the brains of their victims. NOT a nice way to die.

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Posted: 03/26/07 09:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

More from CBC
In Depth -- Pet food
Protecting 4-legged friends
Is it time to lay down the law on pet food production?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/consumers/pet-food-law.html

The pet-food industry is self-regulated in both Canada and USA. While there are requirements around accurate labelling in both countries, there are no requirements regarding what can and cannot be used to manufacture pet food.


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Posted: 03/26/07 09:20am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Very important ... the recalled food list was expanded on March 23. Visit http://www.menufoods.com/recall/ for complete info.

From the FAQs:

The recall is limited to “cuts and gravy” style pet food in cans and foil pouches produced on specific dates and times between December 3, 2006, and March 6, 2007 in two of Menu’s plants. The recall affects 42 brands of cat food and 53 brands of dog food. In order to determine whether cat and dog food that your pet consumed is subject to recall, you should refer to the list of brand names on this website.

You can also review the updated news release (March 24) from the FDA.
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2007/NEW01590.html

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Deb and Ed M wrote:

59022 wrote:

http://www.outoftheearth.com/petfood.htm
"Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) carried in pig- and chicken-laden foods may eventually eclipse the threat of "mad cow disease". The risk of household pet exposure to TSE from contaminated pet food is more than three times greater than the risk for hamburger-eating humans."

BSE & TSE gives me the willies.... It's a good thing my sheep & bison eat only grass, that we know has never been fertilized nor sprayed.


They give me the willies, too, because high temperatures don't seem to kill it. But your "organic" grazing isn't preventing your animals from being exposed - the disease is caused by a thing called a "prion" - it's not a bacteria or a virus. Deer get a similar prion-based disease called Chronic Wasting Disease (and the Human form is called Kreutzfeld-Jacob Disease)......and I'm not sure if they can share that with your grazers or not....but it's something to be aware of.

Basically, the prions eat holes in the brains of their victims. NOT a nice way to die.

Deb


Actually I'm very aware of this. Most were from Rocky Mountain Sheep whose bones layed fallow upon the ground for nearly a hundred years. Deer and other critters ate of the bones for the calcium. If you research it deep enough you'll find CSU (read APHIS) had it contained to a small area above Ft. Collins, CO to and thru the North Platte River Valley (Wyoming). But, for some reason the captured deer were released - the disease began it's spread. Fortunately, we keep a close eye on our grazers and there have never been these ancient sheep grazing within 150 miles of us.


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Deb and Ed M wrote:

59022 wrote:

http://www.outoftheearth.com/petfood.htm
"Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) carried in pig- and chicken-laden foods may eventually eclipse the threat of "mad cow disease". The risk of household pet exposure to TSE from contaminated pet food is more than three times greater than the risk for hamburger-eating humans."

BSE & TSE gives me the willies.... It's a good thing my sheep & bison eat only grass, that we know has never been fertilized nor sprayed.


They give me the willies, too, because high temperatures don't seem to kill it. But your "organic" grazing isn't preventing your animals from being exposed - the disease is caused by a thing called a "prion" - it's not a bacteria or a virus. Deer get a similar prion-based disease called Chronic Wasting Disease (and the Human form is called Kreutzfeld-Jacob Disease)......and I'm not sure if they can share that with your grazers or not....but it's something to be aware of.

Basically, the prions eat holes in the brains of their victims. NOT a nice way to die.

Deb


If you remember the BSE outbreak in UK? They burned the carcasses with diesel fuel and then buried them in a lime filled pit. Neither the diesel fuel nor the lime destroys the prions. Only incineration in a kiln at 1400F will destroy it and the vets knew it. Pity the poor farmers whose ground water supplies will now be contaminated when these pits leach.

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Our Winnie eats Royal Canin Limited Ingredient Diet (Duck and potato) which is bought from our vet, but I'm worried about the fact that no one is regulating the pet food industry. Maybe we'll go to homemade dog food now.

* This post was edited 03/27/07 02:34pm by gemini1968 *


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gemini1968 wrote:

Our Winnie eats Royal Canin Limited Ingredient Diet (Duck and potato) which is bought from our vet, but I'm worried about the fact that no one is regulating the pet food industry. Maybe we'll go to homemade dog food now.


To repeat: US. pet food is regulated, Canadian is not

I heard that on CBC and after following CBC radio for many a year, I have to say there is a lot of credibility in everything they do. I trust that kind of information.

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