TheCaptKen
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Just something I discovered. We changed over to Altel last month and our son loaded the program that allows us to use our laptops to make changes on our phones. Just easier to load music and phone numbers with the laptop. I discovered that I could access the internet thru the phone with the laptop. Before I got carried away and found myself in hock to the phone company, I phoned my agent today and asked about any charges. Since I have the Razr phone and it works like an internet card when connected via a usb cord, I could have unlimited internet access for $25 a month. So I signed up. When I checked the signal, it was as good as the service I get thru our cable company.
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JimInMich
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Here is what I could find.
If you have an older phone, you might be ok. BUT, the newer phones that support EVDO can be monitored for data use. This stands for Sprint as well as Verison. So becareful.
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Sprint has turned on what is known as Modem NAI, a new tethering monitoring system in almost all Power Vision devices that will ensure that Power Vision phones have the required Phone-As-Modem plan to be able to connect to the internet. This includes the Sanyo MM-9000, Samsung MM-A900, MM-A920, and MM-A940. The only exception to this rule is the PPC-6700, which does not support Modem NAI, and will continue to be able to tether without a PAM plan.
Customers who attempt to tether on an EV-DO phone without a PAM plan will receive either no error or an authentication failure message on their phone. Hackers on many sites have posted, and confirmed that there is an existing method on EV-DO Samsung phones to disable Modem NAI, for which Sprint PCS Info is currently providing coverage of.
Existing Vision devices will continue to be able to tether without a PAM plan, though Sprint encourages those customers to sign up for a PAM plan.
There was a bunch more info, I just quoted the one that said it in the clearest terms.
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2 new messages, from a couple Sprint users ( both who had turned off the NAI ).
1/2/07:
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guess I got caught. I had a $99.99 "PCS data" fee on my bill. That was a surprise. I got a new a900 recently and did the same things I did to my old one. Is there any kind of new changes that would enable them to see it.
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I guess I got caught too, I have done it briefly in the past with no problem. I decided to use the phone as a modem to do a quick speed test, and I checked my bill this month and had a $104 PCS Data charge. I am a powervision subscriber and still got charged
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91508&page=21&pp=15
I'm only trying to protect new cell users, who might try this. Just beware you might get caught.
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TheCaptKen
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I guess that fear is what drove me to call first. I just tried my cellphone connection for the real first time and the speed test gave me a connection speed of 879.5 Kilobits. Not as fast as the cable modem here at the house but not shabby. I'm using it currently and seems to do real well for $25 a month. Heck my service at the house is $39 a month.
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Wonder if this is the case for older vision capable phones. I have an old Sanyo 4900 that I tether when on the road????
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Sprint has turned on what is known as Modem NAI, a new tethering monitoring system in almost all Power Vision devices that will ensure that Power Vision phones have the required Phone-As-Modem plan to be able to connect to the internet
verizon has already done this, AFAIK it started with the 8100
so the 8100 8300 8500 8600 9800 9900 LG phones have this, and likely some other models
but it only affects using the EVDO network, puting the phone in 1xOnly mode for the 1x backdoor ( using minutes ) completely negates the EVDO NAI concern on the verizon network
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !
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I called Verizon today and was going to order a Mobile Office Kit and perhaps a new phone so I could occasionally tether to my computer if I really had to when Wi-Fi was not available.
They told me there was no way for me to hook up my computer to a cell phone without paying for unlmited access whether it be national access or broadband. I dialed 611 from my phone and talked to technical support for Mobile Office Kit / aircards. They too said I only had 2 options and both were the same fee for unlimited access.
So now I don't know what to do! Thought about buying a Mobile Office Kit for my Old LG VX5200 off of e-bay for $20 and just following the directions from some of these posts and see if it works.
I have been a Verizon customer for over 10 years and have always had varied customer service. A little of a year ago I spent nearly 5 hours convincing them that Onstar could be linked up with Verizon and added to my family plan. After about 16 transfers somebody got me hooked up but took about 2 days for it to start working.
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never never talk to VZW corp about tethering on MINUTES of uSE on National Access
vzw doesn't promote that service any more.. yes it works and yes you are using minutes of your call plan, but corporate makes more money if they sell you a data plan for internet use.
so if even though they used to promote MOU, they NO longer promote MOU, because you have FREE nights and weekends, so the MOU doesn't add any money to to the coffers when your burning free minutes, people won't set on the phone and talk all night, BUT they will play on the internet all night..
so CS is not allowed to talk about MOU even though they used to push it..before there was free nights & weekends
http://www.trailerlife.com/cforum/index.........d/15038442/gotomsg/18594092.cfm#18594092
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Montana Ultra Runner
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Thanks for the instructions Mr. Wizard. I ALMOST bought an LG VX8300 to replace my old LG 4400. Verizon told me I would have to pay their $59.00 monthly fee (plus all the taxes) to use the MOK with the 8300.
I've decided to baby my 4400 and make do until it dies. Then I'll deal with the 8300 and your instructions.
I learned so much on this forum three years ago. I've been using my 4400 and MOK to access the internet on my laptop since I retired in 2004. Works great when I don't have a free WIFI hotspot.
Have others had success using Mr. Wizard's instructions?
Thanks again.
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MrWizard
Two quick Questions?
1)How does one get their phone re programmed to the original settings if need be?
2) Are the original settings a default settings that the phone could return to by itself under certain conditions such as battery change etc?
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