MrWizard
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Quote:ve been trying to contact Verizon because they cut my mobile office kit service off. I used it one summer where service was available which amounted to about 10 hours total. This past summer when I tried to use it I had no access to the internet. When I called Verizon and asked them about it they said I would have to pay a monthly fee and didn't have an explanation as to why I was cut from the service.
Does anyone know what might be the problem?
more INFO please
DID you change phones or do a contract change, what phone did you use then and what phone are you trying to use now
new phones need some setting changes made before it will work,
also if you changed phones you will need to install the software drivers for the new phone , you can't use the old windows connection , it's not the same modem-phone
also QNC 'quick net' is being phased out, you will need to use the 1x backdoor, it's faster anyway.
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Pineapple Kid
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I do need help also! I have Rotary dial electronic ability!
I just signed up for 2 years of Verizon Americas Choice with a
LG-VX8300 phone. ( I have a Toshiba Notebook)
I also purchased a Verizon Mobil office kit ( $39.99)
I read the pamphlets, all the pages on this topic on RV Net, and talk to the nice people at Verizon ( who I believe are; 1)trained to talk you into an expensive something you don,t want, 2)completely in LA LA Land when it comes to hooking up a computer to a cell phone )
Some of the pamphlets say you can not do it without paying for one of the two $59.99 services they offer ( Verizon )
Other pamphlets have small print references to charging you 1 1/2 cents per KB.
People on Web sites say just hook up and use your dial up ISP and Verizon will never know about it.
I want to connect on a rare occasion when I need to check and send E mail.(I will surf the web when I am in a free WI FI campground)
I have no idea in the world how much it would cost me if I had to pay 1 1/2 cents a KB to check my E Mail.
Verizon has told me begrudgingly after many pointed questions that I could purchase a unlimited minute Dial up type service with them without a 2 year commitment and just pay $59.99 a month for the time I used the service (as long as I had a cell phone plan with them also)
This seems to be the best choice or I just do without unless I can hook up through my dial up ISP like some say is possible.
Can someone help me make some sense out of all this?
Aloha from Kauai
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DanaMc
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Pineapple Kid:
If you have the Verizon Office kit and the correct cable to connect your cell phone to the laptop, you should have all you "need" to make a dial-up connection that would use your normal cell phone plan minutes. If you dial up after 9 PM and weekends, it is free. Your connect speeds will not be blinding, i.e. 44kbs to perhaps 54 kbs. But to check webmail on a server somewhere and download normal messages with modest attachments here and there, it is not a terribly painful task. You DON'T need any other "plans" provided your ISP has a dial-up phone number you can use.
Most folks at any Verizon store truly do not have a grasp of the "solution" from one end to the other. The software in their "office" kit is the same as I recommended in the original thread of this topic. I still use it today and have only had to change my cable when I changed my phone. I did not purchase anything extra on my Verizon cell phone plan.
Hope this helps. Happy New Year!
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the MOK gives you the cable, and the 'drivers', for the phone to function as a modem
you have several choices, as to how too do it.
the drivers must installed before anything will work
then
you can add the VZW access manager OR you can do with out it
connection possibilites
do you have a dialup number provided by your current ISP
if so , you might be able set up a NORMAL slow dialup connection to your ISP
this connection will function like any normal phone call, does NOT use VZW data network and will use your minutes
#2 setup the 1x backdoor connection, a little bit more work, will use your minutes, but will be faster than using dialup to your current ISP
#3 add the $59 data plan as a feature to your phone, this will give you broadband DSL like speeds, an unlimited access, NO minutes will be used from your plan, and as a feature on your voice line , it can be turned on/off added or removed on a monthly basis as needed, add it when your traveling for a few weeks, take it off when your home
here are the basic instructions for setting option 1 & 2
the only differences are the ID & PW & number dialed
for your ISP you will use the number they give you and your ID and PW
for the 1x backdoor , use the your 10digit cell number for ID and vzw for PW
so many people are getting NEW phones ( Vcast capable phones ) and want to use the 1x network connection, here are some directions, these are detailed for the lg 8100 on verizon, will work for the 8300 and 9800 and possibly the 5200
this works for my LG vx8100 and should work for your LG from verizon
press MENU
now press the number 0
the screen will say enter service code
now press 0 6 times
a new secret menu list will appear
look for NETWORK SELECT ( on my phone it is number 3 in the list )
choose NETWORK SELECT and press OK
another menu choose 'Mode Preference' press 1 or OK
another menu
with 4 choices
choose '1X Only'
press OK
this will lock the phone to 1x mode
now press END
it should work for you
If you need to setup the phones PC connection and DUN ( dialup networking )
that is also in the service menu
selection #4 'Data'
nothing about this will change your voice phone calls
VOICE calls do NOT use EvDo ( digital hybrid ) mode that you turned off
all you have done so far is , set the phone to act like older phones that did not have Ev-Do broadband data speed capability,
in the service menu under data, scroll down to PC connection and choose 'cable DUN' and choose enable and OK
all you need to do now is make sure the PW & ID are correct in your dialup connection settings
or create a new dialup connection
PW is VZW the ID is [email protected]
example [email protected]
the number to dial is #777
Create your connection
when you go to connect for the first time, click Properties, go to the "Security" Tab, then under security options, you need to select the radio button next to "Advanced (custom settings)" then click the settings button just to the right of the radio button..
when that dialog box comes up, under the "Allow These Protocols" section, you need to uncheck everything but the "Unencrypted Password (PAP)" option. Hit "OK" on the bottom, a dialog will come up saying something about if the connection uses one of the protocols that you just un-selected it wont work, just press "OK", then press "OK" again.. then you will be back at the login screen for the DUN connection.. Press "Connect" it should work from there..
I hope these directions help
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Many Alohas for the wonderful information! I will give it a go to see what will happen!
One question I still am concerned about is the reference to the charge of $0.015 cents per KB ? Is the dial up exempt from this? or will I get a real big surprise when I get my first bill?
Is what I am doing against Verizon's rules or just not advertised?
Would this be free on nights and weekends?
Aloha and Mahalo from Kauai
Leon ( DBA Pineapple Kid )
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MtnDew
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if you are wondering about the charge here's what I would do:
Make an internet connection during peak hours using your phone....download something worthwhile but not too big....maybe a song or some software or something (msft updates maybe)..look at your next statement and see if they charged you for the kb's you downloaded...if they didn't you should be safe...expect the minutes to be going against your plan if you call during peak hours though.
Also try a call during the weekend and download something and check next statement...neither the call nor the kb's should be charged against your plan. I've used verizon while on the road for a few years now and never have been charged for any data call and I stay connected for hours on end during the nights/weekends playing on line games...
Only way to find out about your particular situation is to actually try it and look at the statement.....(all plans are different depending when you initially signed up as their plan rules and regulations are forever changing so they can make a buck or 2)
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the KB charge is always confusing to people , it is based on the idea of using data on a PDA/smart phone without the PDA monthly data plan a PDA does not ring up minutes when in data mode
when you use your phone to ( dialup )call YOUR ISP, it is just another phone call and uses minutes of your call plan
when you use the #777 backdoor on the 1x mode, it also uses minutes of your call plan,
data bytes are NOT counted, MINUTES are counted
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THANK YOU MR WIZARD. My old LG phone died and I replaced it with
a LG 8300 and also bought the music kit to get the cable. I then set up the phone like you said and it works GREAT thanks again.
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MrWizard wrote:the KB charge is always confusing to people , it is based on the idea of using data on a PDA/smart phone without the PDA monthly data plan a PDA does not ring up minutes when in data mode
when you use your phone to ( dialup )call YOUR ISP, it is just another phone call and uses minutes of your call plan
when you use the #777 backdoor on the 1x mode, it also uses minutes of your call plan,
data bytes are NOT counted, MINUTES are counted
I didnt read 24 pages to see if this was asked before.
I hear Sprint is starting to go after the customers using their phone for data transfers. Read it on a sprint user forum that Sprint can actually tell the difference of a data call and a voice call. of course, dailing in #777 could be their notice to start monitoring you.
Any confirmation on this?
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We use a system called Telular at our radio station for sports broadcasts. It is a fixed wireless terminal that we use with our phone/mic mixer. We plug it into the terminal to call out on. It can also be used for regular phone calls (your home cordless phone can be plugged into it). Check out this link http://www.telular.com/products/product_display.asp?productID=69
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