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Topic: How many of us are there? Owners of Dodge based RV's?

Posted By: Griff in Fairbanks on 08/07/16 09:05pm

On the case of engine temperature, the sensor has a wax/plastic plug that melts and solidifies over a range of temperatures, increasing or decreasing resistance in the circuit. Over time (decades), the plug loses its ability to respond to temperature changes.


1970 Explorer Class A on a 1969 Dodge M300 chassis with 318 cu. in. (split year)
1972 Executive Class A on a Dodge M375 chassis with 413 cu. in.
1973 Explorer Class A on a Dodge RM350 (R4) chassis with 318 engine & tranny from 1970 Explorer Class A



Posted By: eyeteeth on 08/08/16 01:38pm

Picked up a new sensor. Hopefully its the right one. Multiple options again...

Really hoping to put this one to bed once and for all.

then...

on to the next.


Posted By: Wolf_n_Kat on 08/08/16 02:42pm

Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

On the case of engine temperature, the sensor has a wax/plastic plug that melts and solidifies over a range of temperatures, increasing or decreasing resistance in the circuit. Over time (decades), the plug loses its ability to respond to temperature changes.


Okay, 'my' take-away from this? (and thanks for that tid-bit of information, Griff!! Something REALLY nice to know when troubleshooting sensor-dependent circuits!) If you don't know how old a sensor is and if/when it was last replaced, it 'might' be a good idea to replace it anyway.


Posted By: Griff in Fairbanks on 08/08/16 03:08pm

Wolf_n_Kat wrote:

Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

On the case of engine temperature, the sensor has a wax/plastic plug that melts and solidifies over a range of temperatures, increasing or decreasing resistance in the circuit. Over time (decades), the plug loses its ability to respond to temperature changes.


Okay, 'my' take-away from this? (and thanks for that tid-bit of information, Griff!! Something REALLY nice to know when troubleshooting sensor-dependent circuits!) If you don't know how old a sensor is and if/when it was last replaced, it 'might' be a good idea to replace it anyway.

Actually, I'd check the wires and connections on both the gauge and ground sides of the sensor first. More often, I find problems with the circuits themselves rather than the sensor or gauge. That said, the sensor are relatively inexpensive and worth replacing on older engines, especially if working on it gives you easy access to the sensor.

In the case of engine oil pressure, instead of using an OEM sensor, use a late model sensor. On newer vehicles, the sensor contains both a switch and variable resistor, giving you the ability to have both an oil pressure gauge and indicator light.

I don't have the part numbers handy for that upgrade but will find them if there's enough interest. (Ask Leeann what she thinks of the upgrade ... she installed it on her motorhome.)


Posted By: Leeann on 08/08/16 03:24pm

Griff in Fairbanks wrote:

I don't have the part numbers handy for that upgrade but will find them if there's enough interest. (Ask Leeann what she thinks of the upgrade ... she installed it on her motorhome.)


I love it. We installed a red LED right next to the gauge, so we have actual pressure and WARNING, WILL ROBINSON! right next to it. It's perfect.


'73 Concord 20' Class A w/Dodge 440 - see profile for photo


Posted By: Wolf_n_Kat on 08/11/16 03:38pm

Well, how's everybody's day going??

Mine was ruined after I had what I thought to be a genius idea. I finally got a chance to dig out my old cable and see if I could find any numbers. Strike one. Then it hit me - 'before' ordering the cable, maybe I could pull the one end out of the sheath, put the two pieces together at the break, and double-check on the length?

Strikes two and three. Accounting for the fraying where the cable broke, and one or two small kinks (meaning I couldn't get it board-straight, but I got it pretty darn close), the cable is something in the neighborhood of 148" or 149", end-to-end.

Soooooo... Maybe one of the local BIG truck repair places will be able to help.


Posted By: Griff in Fairbanks on 08/11/16 04:25pm

I'm glad you didn't manage to splice together the cable ... I've tried in the past and never succeeded. (The throttle cable on my mini-bike came apart again inside the sheath and jammed, with the engine wide-open ... interesting few minutes getting it stopped, followed by a three-mile walk home.)

I would still order the cable I gave you the part number for ... it might just be the right one. If not, you can return it without any problems.

I'll keep looking for a cable with the length you indicated (148-149").


Posted By: Wolf_n_Kat on 08/11/16 05:36pm

Oh, I wasn't trying to splice it together, although I 'have' toyed with the idea of trying to repair it somehow. Problem is, where it broke (inside the metal wrap sheathing) is either up under the dash, or inside the engine compartment. Neither location is very good for 'creative engineering' repairs. All I was trying to do was get a more accurate (well, as accurate as I could get!) measurement of length.

And I understand that 'walk of shame' very well, although mine wasn't a mini-bike, nor was it three miles. Mine was my cousin's go-cart, and it was across a church parking lot. And for a ten-year old, that was a HUGE parking lot!


Posted By: Griff in Fairbanks on 08/11/16 05:57pm

You now have two people looking for a suitable OEM-type cable ... the other being the general manager of the local CarQuesst store. (He even checked the distribution centers serving the Doyle area to see if they had the cable he and I think is the right one ... they do have it at the DCs so they should be able to get it to your local store in under 24 hours.)

He's going though information he has available to see if there's the same cable in 148-149 inches.

BTW - CarQuest is now Advance Auto, although not all stores have changed signs, etc. yet.


Posted By: Griff in Fairbanks on 08/11/16 07:15pm

Have you considered the possibility someone in the past replace the parking brake cable with the only one they could find, which happened to be the wrong length? Parking brake cables are pull (tension) cables rather than push-pull. Based on my experience undoing what other people have done to older vehicles, kinks in the cable indicates a wrong cable or installation issues.

I've been banging away at my sources and managed to find a listing for a B300 with a 145" wheelbase ... and it used the same front cable as all the other B300s. Some listings indicated different right and left rear parking brake cables for the school bus variant of B300s.


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