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StingrayL82 wrote: DRTDEVL wrote: Here's a quick question... Anyone have a 79+ Chassis? The A/C setup is different in the 79 and later chassis than the older ones. My grandfather did not believe in AC, and only used the Winnie on the Pacific Coast. He removed everything under the hood, and nobody was able to locate it after his passing. I know it was a single-row pulley set and would have used a model RV2 compressor, but I need to see where everything hooks up... the evaporator is separate from the heater system (directly behind the center of the dash) with different ducts and a separate fan control on the same bezel as the heat/defrost. I have no idea where to source the manifold lines, where to mount the receiver/drier, if its an orifice tube or expansion valve system (but I can disassemble the dash to find that out), or the bracketry to mount anything... but I am pretty resourceful with retrofitting similar parts from junk vehicles. I can adapt just about any condenser based upon the fitting sizes, the space available, and the ability to put the largest possible condenser in the space (need more cooling on R134a than on R12).
Anyone have one and some pics of how everything is routed and mounted?
Ok, the condenser is 30" wide by 18" high. I have no idea about orifice vs expansion....I'm A/C stupid, when it comes to terminology, but I took pics. You can see that the condenser attaches to has attached tabs that attach to the core support.
By the way, the B-150, from which I pulled this stuff, was double-row pulley.
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/DIsrShfl.jpg)
I'll have to bookmark this so I can find it later.
The biggest problem I have found with the JY hunts is the use of a different compressor with the 2-row pulley. That is because those units have smog pumps, and mine does not. The smog pump models place the compressor just right of center, while mine would be just left of center.
I hear there is a JY across town with a lot of old MOPAR in it, so I'm going to check that one out soon. It would have been tomorrow, but there was recently a death in the family, so I am now planning a road trip in my GF's car. Interestingly enough, this entails fixing a couple things on my old Chevy truck because, while I could live with the annoyances, I won't leave her here to drive our infant around in it for a week unless its 100% right for her... plus hers needs an oil change before I head out.
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DRTDEVL wrote: I'll have to bookmark this so I can find it later.
The biggest problem I have found with the JY hunts is the use of a different compressor with the 2-row pulley. That is because those units have smog pumps, and mine does not. The smog pump models place the compressor just right of center, while mine would be just left of center.
I hear there is a JY across town with a lot of old MOPAR in it, so I'm going to check that one out soon. It would have been tomorrow, but there was recently a death in the family, so I am now planning a road trip in my GF's car. Interestingly enough, this entails fixing a couple things on my old Chevy truck because, while I could live with the annoyances, I won't leave her here to drive our infant around in it for a week unless its 100% right for her... plus hers needs an oil change before I head out.
Yeah, this B150 did have a smog pump. I took all the pulleys, as well as the A/C compressor the alternator and the air cleaner assembly, but I left the smog pump for obvious reasons.
I like the idea of having two sets of belts for this beast.
Tomorrow the Mrs. and I are pulling the Monaco on the driveway pad and positioning it in front of my garage. I might even go get the engine tomorrow, if we get everything done in time.
The one thing I'm dreading is re-installation of the black tank. Inca Plastics still had the original mold, so I know it'll fit, but I've never had to plumb one before. What's really stupid is that the gray tank is forward of the road-side dually wheels, and the only thing that's plumbed to it is the kitchen sink; the bathroom sink is plumbed into the black tank, and the shower was plumbed so that it exited right in front of the black tank drain, which required use of a "blue boy".
Since the original black tank had extra unused fittings, which would have allowed the shower to be plumbed into it, and because the bathroom was already plumbed into it, my plan is to plumb the shower into the black tank, which also has these same extra fittings, because I really don't feel like toting around a "blue boy".
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StingrayL82 wrote: DRTDEVL wrote: I'll have to bookmark this so I can find it later.
The biggest problem I have found with the JY hunts is the use of a different compressor with the 2-row pulley. That is because those units have smog pumps, and mine does not. The smog pump models place the compressor just right of center, while mine would be just left of center.
I hear there is a JY across town with a lot of old MOPAR in it, so I'm going to check that one out soon. It would have been tomorrow, but there was recently a death in the family, so I am now planning a road trip in my GF's car. Interestingly enough, this entails fixing a couple things on my old Chevy truck because, while I could live with the annoyances, I won't leave her here to drive our infant around in it for a week unless its 100% right for her... plus hers needs an oil change before I head out.
Yeah, this B150 did have a smog pump. I took all the pulleys, as well as the A/C compressor the alternator and the 4BBL air cleaner assembly, but I left the smog pump for obvious reasons.
I like the idea of having two sets of belts for this beast.
Tomorrow the Mrs. and I are pulling the Monaco on the driveway pad and positioning it in front of my garage. I might even go get the engine tomorrow, if we get everything done in time.
The one thing I'm dreading is re-installation of the black tank. Inca Plastics still had the original mold, so I know it'll fit, but I've never had to plumb one before. What's really stupid is that the gray tank is forward of the road-side dually wheels, and the only thing that's plumbed to it is the kitchen sink; the bathroom sink is plumbed into the black tank, and the shower was plumbed so that it exited right in front of the black tank drain, which required use of a "blue boy".
Since the original black tank had extra unused fittings, which would have allowed the shower to be plumbed into it, and because the bathroom was already plumbed into it, my plan is to plumb the shower into the black tank, which also has these same extra fittings, because I really don't feel like toting around a "blue boy".
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StingrayL82 -- IIRC, Leeann posted an image of the plumbing for her motorhome a while back. If you can't find it, I think I saved a copy of the image on my computer. I could find it and email it to you.
It sounds like your gray and black water system was modified by a previous owner. I like separate gray water tank(s) for sinks and shower, with a diverter valve so they can be dumped separately from the black water tank. (Most government regulations allow more options for dumping gray water, in addition to using a dump station.)
I'd start by determining what would be best for you, especially in terms of dumping the tanks. (i.e., dumping the gray water tanks separately and/or being able to dump them into the black water tank.)
You'll probably find you need to dump gray water more often than black water.
I'd also catalog your drains (including toilet) and fittings on your tank.
It's possible to add fittings to plastic tanks. If you find you need to do this, I have additional information available.
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Griff in Fairbanks wrote: StingrayL82 -- IIRC, Leeann posted an image of the plumbing for her motorhome a while back. If you can't find it, I think I saved a copy of the image on my computer. I could find it and email it to you.
It sounds like your gray and black water system was modified by a previous owner. I like separate gray water tank(s) for sinks and shower, with a diverter valve so they can be dumped separately from the black water tank. (Most government regulations allow more options for dumping gray water, in addition to using a dump station.)
I'd start by determining what would be best for you, especially in terms of dumping the tanks. (i.e., dumping the gray water tanks separately and/or being able to dump them into the black water tank.)
You'll probably find you need to dump gray water more often than black water.
I'd also catalog your drains (including toilet) and fittings on your tank.
It's possible to add fittings to plastic tanks. If you find you need to do this, I have additional information available.
Nope, Monaco was dumb enough to build it this way in '76. Remember, my rig has only had one owner, and all he did was maintain it. The black tank is 31 gallons, so it'll hold the waste and shower water for a bit, before needing to be dumped. Here's pics of Monaco's genius setup. Ignore the foxtails, my weedwhacker is down at the moment.
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/rgHcPYOl.jpg)
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/wZHQg6Bl.jpg)
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Oh, how I love how older motorhomes were designed and built ... about as much as having another vasectomy in one of the world's worse earthquake zones.
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Griff in Fairbanks wrote: Oh, how I love how older motorhomes were designed and built ... about as much as having another vasectomy in one of the world's worse earthquake zones.
Pics with explanation now. Forgot to do it first time.
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/iXVMxpol.jpg)
![[image]](https://i.imgur.com/wblc2dbl.jpg)
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I figured that was the gray water drain ... the off-white garden hose connection gives it away.
Down vent on the black water tank isn't good ... vertical vent, through the roof, is better.
Shower and bathroom drains aren't bad but I'd prefer to be able to hook up a hose (maybe a garden hose) to divert the gray water away from the motorhome. (Especially if I'm in an improved campsite.)
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I assume the black water vent exits the top of the tank and does a U-turn downward? If so, and it's exposed to subfreezing air, frost could build up in the vent tube. Enough build-up could block the vent, forcing sewer fumes back into the motorhome interior.
A vertical vent is mostly inside the motorhome, effectively preventing frost build-up.
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Griff in Fairbanks wrote: I figured that was the gray water drain ... the off-white garden hose connection gives it away.
Down vent on the black water tank isn't good ... vertical vent, through the roof, is better.
Shower and bathroom drains aren't bad but I'd prefer to be able to hook up a hose (maybe a garden hose) to divert the gray water away from the motorhome. (Especially if I'm in an improved campsite.)
My arrows are just pointing to where these things are. The black water tank vent goes out the roof.
Keep in mind, the black tank should be in the cavity under these items. I have NOT re-installed it yet.
Griff in Fairbanks wrote: I assume the black water vent exits the top of the tank and does a U-turn downward? If so, and it's exposed to subfreezing air, frost could build up in the vent tube. Enough build-up could block the vent, forcing sewer fumes back into the motorhome interior.
A vertical vent is mostly inside the motorhome, effectively preventing frost build-up.
Yes, the vent exits the top of the tank and does a U-turn downward and then back up, through the bathroom closet and out the roof.
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