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8.1 Van

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Posted: 01/19/15 09:15am

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Lowest Texas price today :
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Posted: 01/19/15 10:05am

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8.1 Van wrote:

Lowest Texas price today :
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Wow! no heating issues in Texas, what the big difference, the station I buy at the difference is about 30 cents.

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rhagfo wrote:

8.1 Van wrote:

Lowest Texas price today :
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Wow! no heating issues in Texas, what the big difference, the station I buy at the difference is about 30 cents.

I've seen a buck sixty difference here at times.

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Hannibal wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

jevanb wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

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You know all the diesel heads like to say that once you go diesel you never go back. It seems that a LOT of people have gone back over the last few years.

I enjoyed all six of my diesels. But once the novelty wears off, it's just a noisy engine that can't rev. [emoticon]

who needs REV`s when You make more HP down low in the stock or modded vehicle. And I dont hardly hear my engine running when I am pulling or not at any speed, unless it is WOT then that is exhaust and turbo`s

When a man's last diesel of six was a whopping 305 hp at the most then he will have no clue as to what we are talking about. Why rev when the job can be done at a quiet relaxing purr.

well my little 6 at LESS than 300 HP does a great job of moving 19,500# up and down hills at the speed limit, at no more than 2,200 rpm's.

Hahaha! Yeah right. 2800rpm to the floor at 44mph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_BTKOTCFQ

Well if you listen to the jabber the passenger doesn't have a clue!! He thinks it is rated for 30,000#. Depends on the gear ratio, driver doesn't know which gear it is in.
I quote from the post to the video.

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With the trailer weighing 17,000 lbs, the truck weighs a little over 8,000, lbs that equals approximately 25,000+ lbs.
With a 4.10 ratio the total combined weight for truck and trailer is 30,000 lbs.
With 3.73 the total combined weight rating is 23,500 lbs.
With 3.42 gears the total combined weight is 16,890. So before you listen to the guy in the passenger seat who obviously has no clue what he is talking about, do the research."

So unless they have the 4.10 axle, they are towing over the GCVWR. Not too bad in my book.

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So your truck idles up the grades at the speed limit towing 1k lbs more than a new 6.7L Cummins powered Ram that can only muster 44 mph foot to the floor at 2800rpm? Once moving, overall gear ratio is what puts the power to the wheels and 2800rpm foot to floor 44mph is using all the gear reduction it can use regardless of rear end ratio. The 6.7L Cummins was maxed out while your '01 idles by at the speed limit in O/D towing 1k lbs more. I'm impressed!

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Posted: 01/19/15 02:23pm

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Hannibal wrote:

Not what I said.
What I said is;
"well my little 6 at LESS than 300 HP does a great job of moving 19,500# up and down hills at the speed limit, at no more than 2,200 rpm's." The only unclear part might be the 19,500# is my GCVW, while towing. Yes I have a 50 Hp chip, so at most 285 HP.
So my point is that I can move about 11,000# trailer, with at most 285 HP, and 3.55 gears, that 6.7 Ram with 100 more HP is likely running too tall a gear for the load.
I do need to drop to 4th on my 5speed to climb those grades.

* This post was edited 01/19/15 02:42pm by rhagfo *

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Ah! That clears it up a bit. I thought you meant your trailer weighed 19,500 lbs. I was moving 17,900 lbs with my Hemi powered 2500HD up the low altitude grades at 4200rpm/300hp 60~mph. It's all good. Of all the Cummins Rams I owned, my '01.5 is still my favorite. You'll miss that truck when it's gone.