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RUFFSTUFF wrote:carl2591 wrote:
the 6.4L ford was a pile of dog $hit just like th 6.0.. now a 7.3 or the new 6.7L and you might have a good diesel. but nothing like a cummins for dam sure.
If anyone thought you had a clue... you certainly cleared that up...
not sure what you mean by having a clue.. the 6.4L was a fuel hog and had its share of issues.
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1212dp_6_4l_problems/
Plus everone know the 6.0L issues.. head bolts, egr, etc.
so not sure what planet you are from but maybe you could be a bit more clear in your post.
I have a 7.3L and my Brother in law has a 6.7L. neither has issue with them thus far. Mine at 168K and his is close to 67K.
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I have met the most friendliest and nicest people in RV parks that I have visited all over the east coast. I log on here for info and read more insults and name calling than any grammar school play lot. When you see a 6.4L or 6.0L owner in person do you say the same?
The 6.0L has a less than stellar record ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink") and the 6.4L appears to have "inherited" some issues from its brother but some owners/buyers prefer that drivetrain or body for whatever reason so why insult?
carl2591 wrote:RUFFSTUFF wrote:carl2591 wrote:
the 6.4L ford was a pile of dog $hit just like th 6.0.. now a 7.3 or the new 6.7L and you might have a good diesel. but nothing like a cummins for dam sure.
If anyone thought you had a clue... you certainly cleared that up...
not sure what you mean by having a clue.. the 6.4L was a fuel hog and had its share of issues.
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1212dp_6_4l_problems/
Plus everone know the 6.0L issues.. head bolts, egr, etc.
so not sure what planet you are from but maybe you could be a bit more clear in your post.
I have a 7.3L and my Brother in law has a 6.7L. neither has issue with them thus far. Mine at 168K and his is close to 67K.
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carl2591 wrote:Steakman wrote:Your last line is exactly where my head is at as well. I would never consider trading in or otherwise getting rid of my 06 LBZ....best motor of the bunch for GM.
Besides...what's the price of a 2500HD these days.? 70+ thousand.? Ain't happening! Just painted mine this summer: $450.00 materials and about 40 hrs of my time...money/time we'll spent imo.
I'll be driving it for another 15 yrs yet! Both for groceries and towing my 5th.
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I was looking at the duramax for possible future purchase, along with the cummins, and have seen others talk about the 05-06 LBZ models.. is that the one with the weird injector issue? how has it been for you and and mods you have done how did they help or hurt power, mpg etc..
Actually it is the 2006-2007 (Classic) that have the LBZ motor. It was the last motor before they got into the DPf/DEF stuff. The injector issue was back in the old LB7 motors (2000 -2004). I am sitting right now at 265k miles and have had no issues with injectors although I do have one that is a bit out but so far, has not caused any issues whatsoever.
To date I have not had an issue with either the Allison or the motor. I have done close to 17,000 in mods since 2007...much on the longetivity side and a bunch of bling too.! 2ndary Oil filtration (FS2500), triple fuel filtration with a lift pump added (FASS), it is tuned mildly & with a DSP5 Switch-Edge Monitor..I normally run it in the 50hp setting for towing and normal day to day driving. The EGR has been blocked since 36K...not an issue whatsoever.
I am still on the original "old Style" head gaskets (new style came Dec 05...missed it by 3 months on the build date), orig Cp3 (Injector pump), and original injectors. Should my HG's go, I will likely get the heads planed, studs added as opposed to bolts, and put in a new set of injectors. It will cost me a chunk I know, but given new truck prices up here..am hearing $90K for a 3500 SLT..!! I'll keep fixing and maintaining this one.
For 6 years I ran a mix of Stanadyne Power service mixed w/2 stroke oil at 25:1 for lubricity and now am using OptiLube..
It has been a reliable truck that for the most part has simply been wear parts & lubricants as far as maintenance goes..Very happy with this vehicle. Only limitation was the 9200 GVWR. My fifth is 8040 lbs dry..~ 10,000 loaded and yea, I am a bit over on the pin weight..but it is not noticeable really. I added some beef on my rear suspension by adding a Roadmaster Active suspension (just coiled springs that sit from the axle to the rear hanger), to help with the rear end sag and improve the stability. If a guy wants to go heavier than say 10,500lbs loaded with a fifth..he better look at a 3500 dually.
This year I am adding shocks to the 5th from Lippert..and a new rear custom bumper on the truck from BulletProoof Bumpers in Red Deer, Alberta... simply gorgeous.!!
As for MPG: Empty truck I typically get 21mpg on the freeway at 120/kmhr Towing..anywhere from 11 - 13.5 depending on where I go..living in Calgary we typically head west through the Rockies to the Shushwap Lake area..some serious climbing there. But I find with the 5th wheel and its sculpted front end, it gets way better mileage than pulling a travel trailer - I'm sure others have noticed this as well.
Thats about all I guess..look at my signature file and there is a link to my "garage" on Diesel Place an excellent duramax forum .. you can see the list of mods there...and pics if you like along with literally 14 years of information on pretty much ANYTHING Duramax related.
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Jandsa
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I'm not going to split hairs about what diesel is the best.
What I do want to post is "Yay for a diesel engine towing power."
We've owned gas-engines trucks, both V-8s, 1500s, one Chevy, one GMC. The Chevy had all it could do to pull a 4900 lb. 5th wheel up a hill and tow long distance without running into the transmission heating up. We had to install a transmission cooler.
Fast forward to earlier this year. We bought a GMC V-8 to tow a 4200 lb. travel trailer. With all the hills in the northeast part of the U.S., the truck was always down-shifting and could not use cruise control.
Sooo, hubby went out and bought a Silverado Diesel. YAY! What a difference. Overkill for pulling a 4200 lb TT, but no more slowing down on hills and so much nicer with cruise control.
And one thing leads to another.......in the process of buying a larger 5th wheel, as to be able to be more comfortable inside on raining days or in the evening. I think this diesel should have no problems towing a 7500 lb. 5ver. Just hoping that mileage will not be less than 10 mpg.
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You will likely find your mileage will increase...the airflow over the truck will be much smoother than when pulling a TT. expect 12+ mpg's with that set up.
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Jandsa wrote:I'm not going to split hairs about what diesel is the best.
What I do want to post is "Yay for a diesel engine towing power."
We've owned gas-engines trucks, both V-8s, 1500s, one Chevy, one GMC. The Chevy had all it could do to pull a 4900 lb. 5th wheel up a hill and tow long distance without running into the transmission heating up. We had to install a transmission cooler.
Fast forward to earlier this year. We bought a GMC V-8 to tow a 4200 lb. travel trailer. With all the hills in the northeast part of the U.S., the truck was always down-shifting and could not use cruise control.
Sooo, hubby went out and bought a Silverado Diesel. YAY! What a difference. Overkill for pulling a 4200 lb TT, but no more slowing down on hills and so much nicer with cruise control.
And one thing leads to another.......in the process of buying a larger 5th wheel, as to be able to be more comfortable inside on raining days or in the evening. I think this diesel should have no problems towing a 7500 lb. 5ver. Just hoping that mileage will not be less than 10 mpg.
Congrats on the new diesel! Here's wishing you many years and miles of happy travels. Back to the gasser for a moment. We towed with six diesels before going back to gas. We use cruise control especially in the hills around the southeast. Downshifting is normal and not a problem. I set cruise on 60-65mph and let it do whatever it needs to do. However, if it's a problem for the driver, it's a problem for everyone in the truck and headaches are no way to spend a vacation. Diesels make their horsepower at lower rpm so less downshifting and a perception of the engine not working as hard. After more than two decades of groaning diesels, I kind of like the hot rod sound of a gas V8 again.
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carl2591 wrote:RUFFSTUFF wrote:carl2591 wrote:
the 6.4L ford was a pile of dog $hit just like th 6.0.. now a 7.3 or the new 6.7L and you might have a good diesel. but nothing like a cummins for dam sure.
If anyone thought you had a clue... you certainly cleared that up...
not sure what you mean by having a clue.. the 6.4L was a fuel hog and had its share of issues.
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1212dp_6_4l_problems/
Plus everone know the 6.0L issues.. head bolts, egr, etc.
so not sure what planet you are from but maybe you could be a bit more clear in your post.
I have a 7.3L and my Brother in law has a 6.7L. neither has issue with them thus far. Mine at 168K and his is close to 67K.
choa.
I'm from the planet "I own a 2010 6.4L" so I'll speak from experience. Bought mine new several months after the 6.7L had been on the market and have never regretted it. I've had the water pump and the hubs/vacuum pump replaced under warranty. Things happen. International built a monster motor and if there is a complaint it is with the federally mandated emissions equipment and not with the actual motor.
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Jandsa wrote: Just hoping that mileage will not be less than 10 mpg.
I get just over 9mpg at 65mph so I'm not going to be upset about that.
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RUFFSTUFF wrote:Jandsa wrote: Just hoping that mileage will not be less than 10 mpg.
I get just over 9mpg at 65mph so I'm not going to be upset about that.
Pulling 7,500# with a diesel you should see north of 12 mpg. I get 12 mpg pulling an 11,000# 5er.
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RUFFSTUFF wrote:Chicks dig diesel. 'Nuff said.
that sums it up in a nutshell.. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
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