Hannibal wrote:

Funny how the diesel only crowd thinks 3k rpm isn't high rpm. It's a blur. Because a gas engine runs about 30% higher rpm doesn't make the diesel's rpm low. Compared to a 19,000 rpm Formula One race car engine, 5k rpm is nothing. The gas and diesel engines in our pickup trucks aren't that far apart.

Steakman wrote:

Your last line is exactly where my head is at as well. I would never consider trading in or otherwise getting rid of my 06 LBZ....best motor of the bunch for GM.

Besides...what's the price of a 2500HD these days.? 70+ thousand.? Ain't happening! Just painted mine this summer: $450.00 materials and about 40 hrs of my time...money/time we'll spent imo.

I'll be driving it for another 15 yrs yet! Both for groceries and towing my 5th.

Cheers,
Stk

transamz9 wrote:


That 500,000 mile 5.4 I referred to earlier. A set of heads around every 100,000 mile mark. Two plastic intakes. Three transmissions. Some might say that the motor is strong to last through all that and then you have people like me that think that a higher revving engine is harder on things , especially the transmission with all the extra shifting.

I have an '01 service truck with the 5.4 that weighs around 10,000# by itself and I do not allow it to tow any trailers anymore because of having to put transmissions in it. It has 4.10 gears and it will not hold OD on the interstate with nothing hooked to it. It has 150,000 miles on it.

The real point I'm trying to make is that people are comparing a gas motor to a diesel motor so they are trying to put them in the same class. So take a 3500 (DWR) with a gas and one with a diesel and load it to it's max and run them until they blow. See which one is still going. My money is on the diesel. I'm not saying that a diesel is for everyone but just the same a gas is not either. It's all in what you want. If you use a truck to go to the grocery or the occasional Lowes trip then a gas engine is just fine. If you are going to use a truck to it's max then diesel all the way.

If I go and look at a used gas truck and it has a goose neck ball in the bed I will move on to the next truck. If it's a diesel truck with a ball in the bed I will think nothing of it.

I agree that these new generation diesels are making it a little harder to constitute having a diesel but in the long run, if you are going to keep it and use it then yes in the long run a diesel is better IMO. FYI, I still love my 05 diesel way better than my 13 diesel.

bkirkpatrick wrote:


Yes but at what RPM? Engines don't survive at higher RPM's

Hannibal wrote:



Me thinks you're exaggerating quite a bit. My F250 is closing in on 85k miles and runs and looks like a new truck. It's Torqshift transmission shifts like new. My previous 2500HD Ram with 5.7L Hemi and 5-45RFE transmission still ran like new, burned no oil and needed nothing at 120k miles when I traded it for the F250. I towed all over the southeast well above the Ram's GCWR and the F250 is right at it's GCWR. We have a fleet of Ford trucks and vans at work with 5.4L's in them and one 6.4L diesel. Guess which one spends much of it's time in the shop. They're all loaded heavy and run hard daily. The '01 Ford transmission may have been a little iffy. The 47RE in the '01 Dodge Cummins was worse than iffy. Chevy? Ah who cares.

carl2591 wrote:



the 6.4L ford was a pile of dog $hit just like th 6.0.. now a 7.3 or the new 6.7L and you might have a good diesel. but nothing like a cummins for dam sure.

RUFFSTUFF wrote:




If anyone thought you had a clue... you certainly cleared that up...

rowekmr wrote:

LOL