waynec1957
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Steakman wrote:DPF...
Strip your trucks of that junk...! that is If you can and are able to get away with that in whatever state you live. Nothing dumber IMO than adding emissions JUNK that does nothing but lower your mileage and the end result is that you burn more fuel. Seems kinda counter productive to me. And if I heard it right, you actually need to dump diesel into these things to burn all that crud too.!! Crazy.
But typical of Eco Zombies in Govt...more emissions control is better, yep and pigs can fly too.! LOL
Stk
Personally, I don't see the big deal with the DPF. You fill it every 6-7k miles (depending on how its driven) and forget it. My bone stock 2013 Duramax with roughly 8,500 miles on it is now getting 20 mpg highway/15 mpg city empty and 12.5 mpg towing our 6,000 lb. loaded camper.
And since this truck is no where near broke in yet, meaning the MPG should get better over time, I don't see where the regeneration of the particulate filter(which I have yet to notice) has had any huge impact on fuel mileage. At least not from what other guys are saying about their trucks.
As far as power, I sure don't feel like I'm missing anything. The only time I know that camper is back there is if I look in the mirror or stop at the gas station.
Our next camper will be 3,500-4,000 lbs. heavier when loaded than this one and I might change my mind...but I doubt it.
So do I void my factory warranty (plus my 10 year extended warranty) by trashing the DPF and putting a bunch of aftermarket stuff on my truck for another 1-2 mpg? For me it's a no brainer. But...it might not work out like that for the next guy.
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DelCamper
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I have had both but I'm going back to diesel. One main reason is refueling. Gas pumps are on a right angle to the station in modern gas stations and when towing unless you can go around the station to the end up at the end pump pump cutting the corner is difficult; sometimes impossible. Generally the diesel pump is located so a tow vehicle can get in. Eight MPG v Fourteen MPG is a big point too. Once moving I don't like to stop until I get "there" so the increased range per fuel up minimizes them.
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Steakman
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X3 on..Don't get hung up on the "recoup additional cost at resale" baloney..."
Once you go diesel, it will be difficult to persuade yourself to go back to gas...you may well just end up keeping it for a lot longer than originally thought. True that at any given mileage point a diesel in similar shape / year as a gasser will usually get you more $$..but at what point does that argument become moot.? As long as my Trans/Engine holds out...the rest I'll replace as required..hopefully be driving it past 500k..besides, its amazing what with a little bit of patience and practice, the things one can do with some painting/body work knowledge and a good set of HVLP..!
cheers - your gonna love it.!
One tip...stay away from the forums..!! Just too many enticements there...don't ask how I happen to know that.
stk
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8.1 Van
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Quote:If you are looking to save money on gas, Wal-Mart has a big offer for you in nearly 20 states.
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Since I sold my last PSD Excursion ( 6.0) in 2007 diesel has always cost more than reg unl gas.
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carl2591
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bkirkpatrick wrote:BigBaron wrote:A diesel tech on another forum says as long as you don't tune a 6.0 and take care of it, it's a good engine.
If you put in studs and a few other things he says they're great.
He also says the Fords and Chevys are what keeps money in his pocket as he doesn't see many Cummins...
You just proved the point about the 6.0. Unless YOU add studs and a few other things ($$$).... Hell, the 6.5 TD also had the potential to be a great engine to with some "extra" work.
hate to bang one out from over a year ago but have been reading this thread for a while now "gas vs diesel" and have to say i went through the same issues trying to figure out the "best" for me/us going forward.
I must say in reading this and other thread on forums i believe a diesel, even with the increase maintenance cost, will in the long run, be a better vehicle to own to pull a travel trailer, especially is you are semi full-time traveling, and go out west a bunch.
Now back to the quoted post.. Now, can you imagine how great it would be if Ford had chosen Cummins engines instead of dodge/ram? That would be the ultimate combo of all time and Ford with be the absolute leader in diesel powered pickups in the WORLD.
just sayin.
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transamz9
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carl2591 wrote:bkirkpatrick wrote:BigBaron wrote:A diesel tech on another forum says as long as you don't tune a 6.0 and take care of it, it's a good engine.
If you put in studs and a few other things he says they're great.
He also says the Fords and Chevys are what keeps money in his pocket as he doesn't see many Cummins...
You just proved the point about the 6.0. Unless YOU add studs and a few other things ($$$).... Hell, the 6.5 TD also had the potential to be a great engine to with some "extra" work.
hate to bang one out from over a year ago but have been reading this thread for a while now "gas vs diesel" and have to say i went through the same issues trying to figure out the "best" for me/us going forward.
I must say in reading this and other thread on forums i believe a diesel, even with the increase maintenance cost, will in the long run, be a better vehicle to own to pull a travel trailer, especially is you are semi full-time traveling, and go out west a bunch.
Now back to the quoted post.. Now, can you imagine how great it would be if Ford had chosen Cummins engines instead of dodge/ram? That would be the ultimate combo of all time and Ford with be the absolute leader in diesel powered pickups in the WORLD.
just sayin.
No , they would have over tuned it and ruined it too. Their's nothing wrong with an International engine.
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Steakman
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Well..after reading the last two posts...just have to chime in.
I have had my 06 LBZ 2500 Duramax now since Feb 07.
261,000 miles
Zero Trans Issues
Zero Engine issues
wear parts only...
Rides nicer than the competition by far..
Runs Quieter than the competition by far..
..with an interior that does not get dirty just by looking at it.
I wont come out and say its the best..?? but pretty hard to beat in my opinion. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
Quote:...Just needed another DPF at work...according to the parts guy, it is $6400 for the part, plus a $2000 core charge. If the honeycomb is cracked, the core charge is lost.
Gas power looking better and better...
A good reason to look at 06/07 Diesel trucks...that is a cost I am glad I do not have to worry about.
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HR 32FKD ....2015 Chevrolet 2500 Duramax CC Z71 Looks just like the one in picture. Just purchased it.The 6.0 that I had was a gas hog. In owning it almost 2 years, not quite 14000 miles, I used 1430 Gallons of Gasoline. Do the math !!! Less than 10 miles to Gallon. Maybe 25% were towing miles. I had traded off a 2006 Diesel for the 2013 Gas job. It was a huge mistake. This is my 6th Victory Red truck in a row.
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carl2591
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did finally pull the trigger and gtt the "new" truck.
2003 Ford F-250 SuperDuty, 168K, Lariet, crew cab, 6ft bed, 7.3L diesel, fiberglass camper top already installed and painted to match, and bed liner that i might get rid of and go rhino type liner.
here is the craigslist post
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/4582608909.html
the leather on driver has the usual scuffing like most, and there is some oil coming down back side most likely turbo pedestal needing o-rings and such.
In drive it back from virginia beach area it does ride nice with no load and the display was showing 18.5 MPG when i got it .. I reset it when i got fuel and it settled out around 20.5 on the road.. turning off AC it would creep up to 20.7 not bad..
Now planning to
1. replace diff cover with mag-hytek alum (which i now have)
2. I got a used 6.0L trans cooler to replace do as well replace trans fluid
3. pull turbo and rebuild with 360 bearing and new o-rings and
4. get something like the WW (not the ww2) just something to help boost a bit and turbo lag.
5. get a mild tuner for econ, tow and exhaust brake function, so advise on that is cool.
6. do the usual stuff like clean the exhaust gas tube thing, etc.
this will be sitting most of the day till about 2 yrs or so, so not in a big rush.
SO i am in the CLUB now.. high five.. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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bkirkpatrick
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7. Exhaust system to let it breathe.
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