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Supercharged wrote:

Why get 3 or 4 hundred thousand on diesel engines and lost the trans at 2 hundred on all model's, sometimes $15,000 to fix.


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Supercharged wrote:

Why get 3 or 4 hundred thousand on diesel engines and lost the trans at 2 hundred on all model's, sometimes $15,000 to fix.


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BigBaron wrote:

A diesel tech on another forum says as long as you don't tune a 6.0 and take care of it, it's a good engine.
If you put in studs and a few other things he says they're great.

He also says the Fords and Chevys are what keeps money in his pocket as he doesn't see many Cummins...

You just proved the point about the 6.0. Unless YOU add studs and a few other things ($$$).... Hell, the 6.5 TD also had the potential to be a great engine to with some "extra" work.

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BigBaron wrote:

A diesel tech on another forum says as long as you don't tune a 6.0 and take care of it, it's a good engine.
If you put in studs and a few other things he says they're great.

He also says the Fords and Chevys are what keeps money in his pocket as he doesn't see many Cummins...


O.K. which is it? 6.0 is a good engine if you spend thousands to upgrade it OR that it keeps money in this so called techs. pocket?


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I didn't mean to start a 6.0L debate esp on reliability or maintenance LOL!

I just wanted to post my comparison on fuel cost but I guess I opened up a can of worms mentioning the 6.0L. To talk about reliability and maintenance the seller I bought it from got 100K miles from it with just schedules maintenance and the seller before him another 100K miles. The seller also maintained a fleet of them for his landscaping business and his theory is keep them stock and keep the fluids fresh and that worked for him. It was running okay with me but had cold start issues that I didn't want to "get used to" so I went in and fixed all of that then added a few mods. I wanted a SUV and that limited me to this or the 7.3L but preferred the 5/6 speed auto trans and updated exterior and interior options so dealing with the 6.0L issues was something I was prepared to do. I've spent $ getting every TV I bought up to snuff so this wasn't any different just a little more technical and a few more $.


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Supercharged wrote:

Gas great, diesel bad smelly, oily, dirty, cost more. keeps carpet dirty in RV.


I would rather get diesel on my hands and cloths than gas! Washes off easier, and sure doesn't burn the eyes (just the fumes) like gas.

I still turn my own wrenches, far prefer to work around diesel fuel than gas!! Just don't need to do it that often!

* This post was edited 12/03/13 01:15pm by rhagfo *


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rowekmr wrote:

I didn't mean to start a 6.0L debate esp on reliability or maintenance LOL!

I just wanted to post my comparison on fuel cost but I guess I opened up a can of worms mentioning the 6.0L. To talk about reliability and maintenance the seller I bought it from got 100K miles from it with just schedules maintenance and the seller before him another 100K miles. The seller also maintained a fleet of them for his landscaping business and his theory is keep them stock and keep the fluids fresh and that worked for him. It was running okay with me but had cold start issues that I didn't want to "get used to" so I went in and fixed all of that then added a few mods. I wanted a SUV and that limited me to this or the 7.3L but preferred the 5/6 speed auto trans and updated exterior and interior options so dealing with the 6.0L issues was something I was prepared to do. I've spent $ getting every TV I bought up to snuff so this wasn't any different just a little more technical and a few more $.


No can of worms, I chose not to go the 6.0 route. If someone with awareness of the issues and the ability to do the necessary modifications to make it reliable then I say go for it. There are some great 6.0 bargains out there.
I still feel compelled to warn the unknowing of the pit falls of the 6.0, not all fail, but to spend good money on 6.0 and six months later be faced with a $15,000 repair bill for a blown engine will put a sour taste in anyone's mouth.

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Per the guy on the other forum, a 6.0 just needs a little tlc and regular maintenance. He's had them all, and his current 7.3 is his favorite as it has no emissions junk.
What's with the tranny comment? No one has ever mentioned that before in any of the other threads. Which model tranny are you referring to?


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Double post. Sorry.

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rowekmr wrote:

Wow if the worst diesel (ever made) makes an almost 50% increase in mpg's then I can't wait for you to suggest the one that gets much better mpg's than that. That was my main consideration next to price of truck in switching.


It's not the mileage...it's the multi-thousand-dollar repairs when the 6.doh barfs up something! The cost to repair a failed 6.doh will buy an enormous amount of gas for a V10.


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