pulsar
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Dick (Dick A)
Thank you for the confirmation. The US Gear write-up contains, Uses the toad’s electrical system. (Looking at the wiring diagrams, it appears that the toad’s battery could receive a trickle charge from the motor home. That is not listed as a feature. Can anyone shed a light on this?)
Now that you have confirmed it, I will edit the post.
Tom
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Dick, did you install it yourself? We just ordered a US GEar. Thanks.
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aerhawk
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Thanks Pulsar for your effort Ive been looking for a brake and this will help greatly
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Truds,
Yes, my son and I installed the system. The total installation time between the motorhome and my '95 Explorer Sport was about eight hours. However, I'm very fussy about installation work and all wiring was put in slit loom and fastened with plenty of ty-wrap clamps. Due to the nature of my work, I have lots of specialized mobile installation hardware and wire on hand.
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Pulsar,
Best info on web, helped in my choice of a brake system.
Thanks from all of us.
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des04004
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Thanks for doing this for us Pulsar. It will be extremely helpful when we need one.
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vroes
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Great thread and info, thanks alot.
What about the Super-Stop Fitzall system which was in the Aug '03 Motorhome Magazine article? It is manufactured by Hendersons Line-up, www.hendersonslineup.com. Does anyone have experience with this hookup? It appears to be very similar to the BrakeMaster 9100, except that the BrakeMaster system has an indicator light in the MH and there is an optional breakaway feature (model 9160).
It seems like both products do not provide for any adjustment of the braking force in the toad... it is 'designed into' the product according to how hard you stomp the brakes in the MH. Is this a deficiency?
I know this thread is not intended to push one product or another, but any actual experience with the Super-Stop Fitzall, good or bad, would be appreciated.
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pulsar
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vroes,
Hendersons advertises the SuperStop Fitzall as Perfect alternative unit when the M&G style unit won't fit. They also sell the M&G system. I have not done a formal review of the Fitzall because I have been unable to obtain enough information. The system looks to work more like the BrakeMaster systems than the M&G system.
The M&G system requires that a toad have power brakes. An air cylinder is inserted between the power brakes and the master cylinder. At one time, they did not have air cylinders that would fit all cars. That may still be the case.
The Fitzall would require you to purchase a separate breakaway system. They sell the SuperStop Break-A-Way system.
Tom
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vroes
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I ordered the SuperStop Fitzall product over the phone a few days ago... will post after I receive and install it. The guy said if I didn't like it for any reason he would take it back and give a full refund (I eat the shipping).
I have air brakes and Jake brake in my MH so I didn't want anything inertial (mercury switch, pendulum or accelerometers)... don't want the toad brakes dragging every time I use the Jake. But I am concerned about the lack of feedback to the driver regarding what the supplementary brake is doing back there... how do you know there is a problem until it's too late (toad brakes wore out, for example).
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pulsar
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vrose,
You could use Blue Ox’s alert system. Here is a link to a pdf file that describes it. Blue Ox Alert System It will work with any system that depresses the brake pedal. It splices into the cold side of the brake light circuit and transmits its signal when the toad’s brake lights come on. It does not attach to the supplementary brake system.
Looking forward to your report on the Fitzall.
Tom
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