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noRVtoheaven

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Posted: 03/21/05 12:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Unfortunately I have to be a contributor to this thread.

Last August when we were north bound on I-39 somewhere between Bloomington, Ill. and Rockford, Ill. I went over a bump in the road caused by road construction.

All of a sudden my coach had no power. No electrical, no transmission, no engine, no nothing. I managed to coast to the side of the road and their we sat. When I turned my ignitions switch, to attempt to start the coach, nothing happened. I waited a few minutes and tried again and it started only to stop running again. I then went and looked into the battery compartment to see if maybe a battery had came loose and was shorting out against something but they were okay.

I then went back and attempted to start the coach and it started right up. It kept running so we headed out and made it back to Stevens Point, Wisconsin without further incident.

I took the coach up to my dealer who looked the coach over from front to back but they couldn't find a thing wrong with it. So, somewhere in my coach I have a problem waiting to jump out and bite me and there's nothing I can do to prevent it. Scary ain't it.[emoticon]


Had a problem something like yours only coach would not start after fueling. Towed, started at repair shop, they could not locate problem. another time one year later same problem but started after setting. two years later it became more frequent. Cummins west finally got it to duplicate problem. Was a wiring connection where wire was short of normal causing a connection that would pull away and not make contact. They lenghend wire and no problem since. I would bet on a connection that had no contact temporarily and caused your problem.


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Date of incident May, 2003
RV particulars: 2000 Country Coach 40'   
Driveline Cummins ISC 330, Allison 4000   
Miles:11,000
Break Down Description: Engine Quit

Symptoms: Everything stopped, all gauges went to zero, no warning lights, power steering, all indications of ignition key being turned off.

   Effect: Fortunately we were on a private road to our church parking lot. We were going only about 10MPH so we pulled over without incident. Could have been dicey anywhere else.

   Cause: This was the first time we had driven the MH with cats on board. Being new to this environment, the cats hid in the bedroom closet and only came out when things were quiet. When I started up the engine and started moving, they stayed in the closet until we went over the first speed bump on the road to our church. This, along with clothes falling on them and cans crashing out of the pantry, caused them to race to the front of the MH and away from the noise. One cat, an 18 lb Main Coon, had previously discovered a safe place under the dash to hide to which she made a beeline. In the confusion and turmoil of the speed bump, neither of us knew she had gone there, but in her dash to safety, she pulled the wire harness away from the ignition switch.

   Outcome: After checking out the chassis battery and other electrical connections that might have been ignition related, the absence of any wires attached to the ignition switch was discovered. Reconnecting the harness fixed the problem. After an additional search, cat was found hiding in the vacant area behind passenger side dash panel.

Solution: 1) Safety wired harness to ignition switch, 2) cardboarded and duct taped underside of dash to prevent cat entry, 3) put cats in cage in dingy when underway.

Postscript: As cats became accustomed to travel, they now ride in the motorhome, unsupervised on the bed, most of the time sleeping while underway. The engine now seems to have a calming effect.

Oh yeah, and I now drive very slowly over speed bunps.


Cats are not compatable with your Cummins engine only a CAT engine. You shoukd have known better.

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I was north bound from El Dorado, Ks, made about 35 miles and my wife smelled fuel. The number 5 fuel injector line on my 1999 275 cummins, split, resulting in a delay of at least 3 days, happened on Easter weekend, cannot order part until Monday. Is this a common occurance of fuel injector lines splitting. Drove trucks in the oil fields in the 70's never had this kind of problem.

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1993 Gulfstream Tourmaster
(39 foot Class A Diesel Pusher)
Spartan Chassis, 300hp Cummins, Allison 5 speed

The engine just died while driving. Felt like someone turned the key off. Was able to pull over on the side of the road where I inspected the ignition switch and battery compartment area.

After about 5 minutes I got back in and it cranked up like nothing had happened. I didn't like the fact that it 'fixed' itself so I done a thorough inspection of the front electrical compartment being sure to touch every item in the compartment.

I found out that the Run Relay was extremely hot. I continued on home, not using dash A/C or headlights which let the relay cool somewhat. The next day I replaced the relay with a new one from NAPA. Never had the problem since. The relay looks similar to the old Ford starter relays but it's designed for continuous use - buy the correct replacement. I now carry spares, not only this relay but also one of every type of circuit breaker and relay (there are dozens).

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98 454 vortec, 31k miles, august, 2004, 90 degree day 3pm afternnon,prince george, british columbia, engine bogging down at 50 mph, wouldn't excelerate, ran of in cooler weather, unusal whinning sound coming from rear end of mh,pulled tank and replaced fuel pump, then ran ok.


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03, Fleetwood Discovery, Freightliner chassis, Cat 330HP. On trip from Florida to Arizona, I was less han 100 miles from home when the low batery light came on. I pulled over as soon as I could and wedged a tooth pick in the emergency start switch. This tied the house batteries [4 six volt] to the chassis system and the light went off. I stopped later at a large parking lot and checked the alternator belt and it was OK. I decided to continue the trip using the house batteries to furnish electrical power. When I got the low battery light again, after running several hours at night, I started the generator and continued the trip. We completed the roundtrip of over 4,000 miles by using this method. We would charge our batteries in the campgound each night and only run the generator when both battery banks got low. Once I almost waited to long to start the generator and was barely able to get it to start on the low battery. I saw in previous posts that others had run home on generator. I was able to keep the generator off for the majority of trip by using the emergency start feature. After we finished our trip, we returned the coach to our dealer and had the alternator replace under warranty since it had only 11,000 miles when it failed. I had called Fleetwood to report the failure before I reached 12,000 miles and they stated that I could have the work done under warranty when we returned to Florida. Doug Ray

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[quote=FLMOHOMER]03, Fleetwood Discovery, Freightliner chassis, Cat 330HP. On trip from Florida to Arizona, I was less han 100 miles from home when the low batery light came on. I pulled over as soon as I could and wedged a tooth pick in the emergency start switch. This tied the house batteries [4 six volt] to the chassis system and the light went off. I stopped later at a large parking lot and checked the alternator belt and it was OK. I decided to continue the trip using the house batteries to furnish electrical power. When I got the low battery light again, after running several hours at night, I started the generator and continued the trip. We completed the roundtrip of over 4,000 miles by using this method. We would charge our batteries in the campgound each night and only run the generator when both battery banks got low. Once I almost waited to long to start the generator and was barely able to get it to start on the low battery. I saw in previous posts that others had run home on generator. I was able to keep the generator off for the majority of trip by using the emergency start feature. After we finished our trip, we returned the coach to our dealer and had the alternator replace under warranty since it had only 11,000 miles when it failed. I had called Fleetwood to report the failure before I reached 12,000 miles and they stated that I could have the work done under warranty when we returned to Florida. Doug Ray[/quote] I always wondered if this could be done (use the emergency switch to provide power to the chassis in an alternator failiure). Any other side effects? I would agree that you could run the batteries down, but running the generator would not sacrifice them that much, right?

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Posted: 04/03/05 06:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MAP40,
Using the Emergency start switch to tie the two battery systems together did not cause any other damage or problems. The house batteries did not suffer any unusual damage since as soon as I got the low battery light on the dash, I would start the generator to re-charge, maintain the batteries. This also charged the chassis batteries since they were still tied to the coach betteries. Also the batteries did not fully discharge since the warning light comes on when the voltage drops a small amount. I am not sure what the level is, but it is still high to start the generator or even the engine if needed within about 30 minutes of first seeing it come on.

Doug

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By replacing the emergency start solenoid wt. a battery separator (Shure Power, Inc., 100 amp, $75) makes the whole situation much easier in such a failure and makes every day operation and storage easier. The separator closes when the voltage raises to 13.1 volts on either the chassis or house side, thus regardless of the charging source, all batteries are charged.

When in storage and connected to shore power all seven of our batteries are maintained by the three stage converter/charger.

When dry camping, running the generator, likewise will charge all batteries.

When on the road, again all are charged without the voltage drop normally introduced by the isolator.

Wt. the alternator out, you would still have to do as you did in order to back feed the chassis when the generator was not running.

Jim

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