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Since YOU asked..
get the HO version.... I drive a lot of new trucks to and from dealers, there is a noticeable difference between the 2... a small, but noticeable difference... Although, I have not towed with the new HO version...
So, My vote is for the $10k upcharge and run the HO
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If the HO run up the IKE is the way they all run, I don't think it is worth the money. However, perhaps the resale value of having that option would come close to paying for itself.
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ksss wrote:If the HO run up the IKE is the way they all run, I don't think it is worth the money. However, perhaps the resale value of having that option would come close to paying for itself.
I have a hard time understanding why the HO performed worse on the Ike vs the regular output. Maybe (just an absolute wild guess) it has a different turbo that doesn't like high altitude?
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Gale Banks has an interesting You Tube video on the '24 Duramax. It speaks to how the truck cannot utilize its max torque capability, except in very limited situations where the truck can stay in first gear. Perhaps the situation is similar in the HO. It has the "potential" to achieve it's power rating but not really achievable in most driving situations. He talks about the torque rise capability and how important that number really is. Your the man when comes to figuring all that out, but after seeing that video, I immediately thought of the HO's run up the IKE as an explanation of why it's run was pretty average considering the spec sheet.
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ksss wrote:Gale Banks has an interesting You Tube video on the '24 Duramax. It speaks to how the truck cannot utilize its max torque capability, except in very limited situations where the truck can stay in first gear. Perhaps the situation is similar in the HO. It has the "potential" to achieve it's power rating but not really achievable in most driving situations. He talks about the torque rise capability and how important that number really is. Your the man when comes to figuring all that out, but after seeing that video, I immediately thought of the HO's run up the IKE as an explanation of why it's run was pretty average considering the spec sheet.
The '24 Duramax hp/torque rating is probably understated like the '20 Powerstroke was.
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MY BIL had a 2022 F350 Lariet and pretty sure it still had the factory oil/filter on it. He traded it on a 2023 F350 King Ranch.
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FishOnOne wrote:ksss wrote:Gale Banks has an interesting You Tube video on the '24 Duramax. It speaks to how the truck cannot utilize its max torque capability, except in very limited situations where the truck can stay in first gear. Perhaps the situation is similar in the HO. It has the "potential" to achieve it's power rating but not really achievable in most driving situations. He talks about the torque rise capability and how important that number really is. Your the man when comes to figuring all that out, but after seeing that video, I immediately thought of the HO's run up the IKE as an explanation of why it's run was pretty average considering the spec sheet.
The '24 Duramax hp/torque rating is probably understated like the '20 Powerstroke was.
Yes it might be, I don't recall the numbers, but the parasitic loss through the drivetrain seemed really low to me, suggesting that it's making more power than advertised or they have figured out how to lessen the loss running through the drivetrain.
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Using a 15% driveline loss the engine hp required for the Duramax to pull a 27000 lb trailer up the Ike in 620 seconds works out to about 406 HP
Making the same assumptions the 2020 Powerstroke would have had to make 434 hp to pull a 30,000 lb trailer up the Ike in 620 seconds
And using the same assumptions again the 2023 Powerstroke produced 414 crankshaft hp to drag the 27000 lb trailer up the Ike in 606 seconds.
If you look at the spec sheet on the three engines: the Duramax should produce an average of around 405 Hp throughout its rpm range
The 2020 Powerstroke should produce an average of around 430 Hp over its rpm range
The 2023 Powerstroke should produce an average of about 460 Hp over its rpm range.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubgsQ-ROzm4
Here is the video. The interesting part starts at about the 5 min mark.
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4x4ord
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^^^ The link wouldn't open for me. Is this the clip you were wanting to post.
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