4x4ord
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Ford has been equipping their F350s with Michelin
A/T2s forever….. until now. My ‘23 has Bridgestone Dueller ATs on it. The interesting thing is that none of the Bridgestone Dueller ATs on the internet show the same tread pattern as what’s on my Ford.
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ksss
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My Chevy 3500 came with Michelin AT2. I am getting real tires put on tomorrow.
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FishOnOne
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4x4ord wrote:Ford has been equipping their F350s with Michelin
A/T2s forever….. until now. My ‘23 has Bridgestone Dueller ATs on it. The interesting thing is that none of the Bridgestone Dueller ATs on the internet show the same tread pattern as what’s on my Ford.
It maybe a new tire there shipping only to Ford and haven't updated their website yet.
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CapriRacer
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Just so everyone understands: OE tires - that is the tires that come on a vehicle directly from the assembly plant - are designed by the vehicle manufacturer, not the tire manufacturer. There are a few consequences of that.
An OE tire is significantly different than any other tire - even if the name on the sidewall is the same!
An OE tire might be a one-tire-in-the-line kind of thing!
Since the vehicle manufacturer is designing the tire, their priorities are different than the tire manufacturer - and they are different than the end user! Vehicle manufactures are more interested in fuel economy and less interested in wear than the average consumer. As a result you will find that generally OE tires give better fuel economy, but worse wear than the norm.
As far as traction is concerned, the OE tire can be a mixed bag. Sometimes it's OK and sometimes not!
If you want more detail, visit my webpage on the subject:
Barry's Tire Tech: OE Tires
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ksss
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I didn't know that. I assumed the OEM just selected an already manufactured tire design. I guess that would explain why the Bridgestone doesn't match anything else out there. It also explains why some tires on a new vehicle don't last near as long generally as those purchased off the shelf. The downside is that a poorly performing tire (that came with the truck) with the same name, creates a distaste for that tire that probably doesn't go away.
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FishOnOne
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I've had some of the best tires from a factory new truck and some of the worst tires.
Best Tires: Uniroyal Tiger Paws (Chevy), BF Goodrich AT 1st gen (Super Duty)
Worst Tires: Goodyear (Chevy)
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Bionic Man
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I’m always surprised at how many miles some can get out of tires on a HD. I’ve never got more than 40k from a set. Sometimes as little as 18,000 miles (I think those were Yokohamas and I got credit for them).
New truck came with Firestones. I like how quiet they are but I already have 13,000 miles (almost all towing something). They won’t last another 13,000 miles. I’ll look for a tire with tread mile warranty when I replace them if I can find it, but I also want to go up in size to fill up the wheel wells better, and those tires don’t usually come with any treadlife warranty.
As far as buying from Costco, I did that a year ago on my Expedition (those tires only lasted 40k as well). Never again. They had the best price but discount would have matched them. Service has been terrible - everything from getting them installed to rotation. They are just way under staffed at the two close to me. I’ll go back to Discount for future purchases.
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FishOnOne
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I typically get ~40k miles on my tires, but my current set of Nitto Ridge Grappler tires LT285/65R20 have 36k miles and look like they could make it to ~50k miles.
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The Ram 2500 I picked up recently has 9,800 miles with Firestone Transforce AT tires and they look like they may make it to ~20k miles.
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ksss
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I just got a set of Toyo RT Trails put on my '24 3500 today. They sure look good, hope they run good.
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4x4ord
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CapriRacer wrote:Just so everyone understands: OE tires - that is the tires that come on a vehicle directly from the assembly plant - are designed by the vehicle manufacturer, not the tire manufacturer. There are a few consequences of that.
An OE tire is significantly different than any other tire - even if the name on the sidewall is the same!
In the case of the Michelin LTX AT/2s the OE tires used by Ford for the past 12 years not only were labeled LTX AT/2s they had the identical tread pattern and weight carrying specs as Michelin LTX AT/2s sold aftermarket. In this particular case do you actually think there is something different between a Michelin AT/2 sold aftermarket and a Michelin AT/2 OE tire? I’m finding this hard to believe.
However, in the case of the Bridgestone Dueler it’s more believable. Bridgestone makes various Dueller tires and the ones on my Ford don’t look like nor are they labeled identical to any Bridgestone Dueler after market tires. Even so it wouldn’t surprise me if Fish is right and Bridgestone ends up selling these identical tires aftermarket in the near future …..what do I know ….. in my world something that looks like a duck and quacks like a duck has always been a duck.
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