cummins2014
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goducks10 wrote:Michelin changed the compound on the new and improved MS2. I recently had some installed on my truck. They rode really nice when not towing. Hooked up to my TT and the truck felt like it was on ice. They replaced the POS Firestones on my Ram 3500. While those tires didn't last very long they were much better at controlling the truck when towing.
Went back to Discount tire and told them what happened. I put 2000 miles on them. They gave me a 100% refund and I got some Cooper AT3's. Much better than the MS2. Stiffer ride but my truck goes 50/50 towing and DD so I'll live with it.
So far the Cooper AT3 XLT's have been the best riding ,handling tire ive ran so far on my 2014 Ram 3500 . Time will tell on the wear . At 18 months ,and about 10K miles ,looking good .
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FishOnOne
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cummins2014 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Pretty confident these new AT2 tires won't last as long as your previous MS2 tires.
Friend had them on his Superduty 350 , they went less than 30K. I considered them at one time , but went with Toyo. Was not impressed with Toyo .
Which Toyo tires did you have?
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cummins2014
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FishOnOne wrote:cummins2014 wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Pretty confident these new AT2 tires won't last as long as your previous MS2 tires.
Friend had them on his Superduty 350 , they went less than 30K. I considered them at one time , but went with Toyo. Was not impressed with Toyo .
Which Toyo tires did you have?
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Cummins12V98
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Well i have put around 1,000 miles towing my 24k 5er with 6k pin and these mew tires feel great as did my previous MS2's. I was thinking i would have more road noise with these AT2's but they are no louder than the MS2's and they were quiet. ZERO new tire squirm solo or towing so all that is left is to see how long they will last. Not worried as they have a 60k warranty. Temp wise they seem to be running similar to the MS2's.
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Groover
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That more aggressive tread is probably going to cost you tread life but that is covered under the warrantee. The bigger issue may be fuel cost. I am guessing a possible 10% reduction fuel economy as well. When you get some real numbers on that it will be interesting to see them.
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Cummins12V98
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Groover wrote:That more aggressive tread is probably going to cost you tread life but that is covered under the warrantee. The bigger issue may be fuel cost. I am guessing a possible 10% reduction fuel economy as well. When you get some real numbers on that it will be interesting to see them.
My mileage did not decrease one bit. I just completed a trip towing my 5er with MC trailer 1,300 miles and mileage was exactly like times before.
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Huntindog
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Cummins12V98 wrote:Groover wrote:That more aggressive tread is probably going to cost you tread life but that is covered under the warrantee. The bigger issue may be fuel cost. I am guessing a possible 10% reduction fuel economy as well. When you get some real numbers on that it will be interesting to see them.
My mileage did not decrease one bit. I just completed a trip towing my 5er with MC trailer 1,300 miles and mileage was exactly like times before. IME agressive tread is often quiet when new, and gets louder with wear.
Time will tell.
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Groover wrote:That more aggressive tread is probably going to cost you tread life but that is covered under the warrantee. The bigger issue may be fuel cost. I am guessing a possible 10% reduction fuel economy as well. When you get some real numbers on that it will be interesting to see them.
I wouldn't call the tread of the A/T2s aggressive:
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Cummins12V98
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4x4ord wrote:Groover wrote:That more aggressive tread is probably going to cost you tread life but that is covered under the warrantee. The bigger issue may be fuel cost. I am guessing a possible 10% reduction fuel economy as well. When you get some real numbers on that it will be interesting to see them.
I wouldn't call the tread of the A/T2s aggressive:
I agree, far from it!!! Now my NITTO Ridge Grapplers are what I would consider mildly aggressive.
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blt2ski
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I would call the AT2 an aggressive highway or mild AT tire.
Certainly, not aggressive like the duratracs on my truck!
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