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Campinfan

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Posted: 10/27/23 11:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My rig is a fifth wheel so I do not have a tongue (on the trailer...lol) I figure the truck is helping to keep the battery charged as I am driving. I am exploring other battery options such as 6 volts wired in series (not enough room for 4 of them to run them parallel and in series. With Lithium Ion, don't I need to get a different converter to charge them. Every time I think I understand this stuff, I come upon something that makes me confused.


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I would not assume that the 7 pin connection is providing charge or adequate charge. Get a voltmeter and check. Even if charging, some trucks have an undersized charge wire. This causes loss and therefore may not provide adequate charge.

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It may not be double--but the larger the inverter the greater the idle draw.


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AllegroD wrote:

I would not assume that the 7 pin connection is providing charge or adequate charge. Get a voltmeter and check. Even if charging, some trucks have an undersized charge wire. This causes loss and therefore may not provide adequate charge.

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I have old absorption fridge, and have wired the trailer so the only power supplied to 12V side of fridge is from the 7 pin. And that is the only demand on charge circuit.
We only camp with power, the fridge runs 120 at camp, 12V when we travel. But you are right, need to know getting adequate power. Could there be a phone app to watch voltage of trailer battery and fridge temp?

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The amp draw from the batteries via the inverter is dependent on what the AC amp draw of the fridge is. Look at the specs of the fridge to get the amp draw.


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wanderingbob wrote:

I am just curious since we are on the subject , Two inverters , hooked up the same , one is 1,000 watts , the other is 2,000 watts , both on idle , nothing plugged in . Is the 2,000 watt machine drawing twice as much current as the 1,000 watt one ?


Every inverter will have a different no load draw. Looks at the specs of the two inverters in question so see what their no load draw is.

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Campinfan wrote:

I did go buy a group 27 instead of the group 24 but now I am thinking I should have gotten the 6 volts or a second 12 volt but I am not sure another 12 volt will fit in the space.


One group 27 battery is not nearly enough capacity to run the fridge for more than a few hours.

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Consider using a kill-a-watt meter from P3. Inexpensive and you can plug your fridge into it for a day or whatever duration you choose. It will give you actual power consumed. Go from there rather than guessing.

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"Does anyone know how many amps are drawn by an inverter to convert to AC for a residential fridge. Can anyone tell me how to figure it out.


Look for the Manufacturers ID plate attached somewhere to your refrigerator. It will state the load in amps @ 120 volts. Convert that to watts. Watts = Volts X Amps. For example, if your refrigerator draws 6 amps @ 120 volts, the watts equal 6 X 120 = 720 watts actual load. Now add the power draw of your inverter (in addition to the energy required to run the frig) to convert from 12 to 120 volts. If you have a 1000 watt inverter, figure about 5%. So .05 X 1000 = 50 watts. Now add that to the actual load. 720 + 50 = 770 watts. Now convert to battery amps @ 12 volts. 770 / 12 = 64 amps. That's a lot, but it is not continuous. It's based on the duty cycle of your refrigerator.

64 amps @ 12 volts far exceeds what you could reasonably/reliably expect to run through a single pin on a standard 7 pin truck/trailer connector. Your residential refrigerator may draw less than 6 amps (@ 120 volts), but, if it's a high end model with all the bells and whistles, it could be considerably more.

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* This post was edited 10/31/23 11:02am by Chum lee *

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Most new residential fridges use between 100 and 300 watts* (22cu/ft) and while the vehicle is running it will be putting out 14+ volts so the 7 pin would need to provide somewhere between 7~25 amps.

*Momentary start up current not withstanding.

* This post was edited 10/30/23 11:40am by ScottG *

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