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bobndot

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Posted: 10/23/23 01:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

eHoefler wrote:

What till spring and top off with very fresh DEF.


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Reason : winter temps in ny. Store the new stuff in warm indoors.

From DEF website .
“Like many products on the market today, Blue Def does have a limited shelf life. But its shelf life is determined by the ambient temperature it is stored at and not its ingredients. To have a 3 year shelf life, Blue Def must be stored at temperatures no higher than 50 degrees F.”

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way2roll wrote:

dalej wrote:

ScottG wrote:

One thing is for sure, you do not want to put bad DEF in it.


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What happens? Do you have an example of using "bad" DEF? And how do you tell if it's bad?


I have read of plenty. If bad, it can clog the injector, cause pump failure, damage the DEF quality sensor and and in some cases require the entire tank assembly (with pump, sensor) be replaced. It can quickly climb in to the thousands to repair.

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I don't use DEF, however it seems to have different storage and use between sources.
That means there must be different quality or ingredients.
Has anyone done research?


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ScottG wrote:

way2roll wrote:

dalej wrote:

ScottG wrote:

One thing is for sure, you do not want to put bad DEF in it.


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What happens? Do you have an example of using "bad" DEF? And how do you tell if it's bad?


I have read of plenty. If bad, it can clog the injector, cause pump failure, damage the DEF quality sensor and and in some cases require the entire tank assembly (with pump, sensor) be replaced. It can quickly climb in to the thousands to repair.


Care to share the links for these accounts?

I've read a lot of the opposite. On a few diesel forums there are accounts of guys running plain water in their DEF tanks when they run out. Worst case was a "bad Def" code and went in to limp mode. Many say nothing happened at all. The DEF system is not much more than a pump with an atomizer that sprays a mixture of urea and water. Sans a few sensors, it doesn't affect the engine at all.

Back on topic, different brands and sources all cite different shelf life and potential issues. Seems very ambiguous.

To the OP, if you are worried about shelf life, aren't you concerned about the age of the DEF that's already in the RV when you put it away for storage?

Personally I'd top it off before putting it away, or leave it and add new in the spring. I don't think it will matter a bit either way. I think this is a case of a solution in search of a problem.

* This post was edited 10/24/23 06:27am by way2roll *


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