Huntindog
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Lantley wrote:I think believing EV's are not viable it because of the lack of charging stations is silly.
At some point there were cars and no gas stations.
The wright bros. didn't give up on the airplane because there were no airports.
The infrastructure will come in time. To think there should be a charging station on every corner at this juncture is foolish. Depends on when you want to travel.
I want to now. Not at some point in the future. Is that foolish? If so, I will proudly wear that label.
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Huntindog wrote:Lantley wrote:I think believing EV's are not viable it because of the lack of charging stations is silly.
At some point there were cars and no gas stations.
The wright bros. didn't give up on the airplane because there were no airports.
The infrastructure will come in time. To think there should be a charging station on every corner at this juncture is foolish. Depends on when you want to travel.
I want to now. Not at some point in the future. Is that foolish? If so, I will proudly wear that label.
Yah that’s valid and hits close to home. We have a number of family members who really want to switch to EV as it will save them a ton of money with the amount of kilometres they drive. But the corridor to northern BC is not finished yet and probably won’t be for 2 more summers. It’s the same corridor that’s keeping us from travelling and camping in the Yukon and into Alaska. Both BC hydro and Chevron are chipping away at it (and tesla to a lesser extent) but it will be awhile yet. Bottom line is it has to make sense.
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shelbyfv
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Yep, having choices is usually a good thing. I wouldn't choose an EV right now to pull a 40' mobile home but one would work fine for my wife's commute to the gym. I'm happy to see infrastructure expanding and technology improving!
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Grit dog
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JaxDad wrote:Reisender wrote: Generally speaking, the further you go north the higher the adaption rate of EV’s is. Norway has the highest EV adoption rate in the world, now north of 90 percent. Iceland, holland, Sweden, Switzerland, Germany all have high EV adoption rates.
I have family in Finland, the main reason, by a wide margin, for EV ownership is purely financial. People that formerly couldn’t really afford a car, now can, and thank the taxman for that.
Gasoline is ~US$7.50 / gallon, and is garbage fuel from Russia that requires a major detune of most vehicles. Folks with money and performance cars buy gasoline imported from Germany with a 50% premium tacked on. Heavy import duties, huge annual taxes and licensing fees all disappeared with the EV’s
In my family’s case the advantage is so great they have 3 EV’s now for less money than one gasser used to cost.
Bingo, socialism has its way of convincing people to do things or what’s “best”.
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shelbyfv wrote:Yep, having choices is usually a good thing. I wouldn't choose an EV right now to pull a 40' mobile home but one would work fine for my wife's commute to the gym. I'm happy to see infrastructure expanding and technology improving!
For sure. And we each in our own way spend unnecessary money on things or luxuries that “we” want. Myself included.
But the flip side to what you said, is that $5000 fuel sipping old commuter would get her to the gym just the same, but cheaper, albeit without the fanfare and image you/she is trying to put forth.
I feel the point that is lost here is that generally those who are advocates are either above the median income/wealth range and it’s a combination status symbol and an adjectival representation of what they want people to think about them or literally going for the most basic compact commuter car.
Not bagging on your choice. I could say the same for myself with a stable full of fuel guzzlers. They’re what I prefer.
The difference is, unlike many EV owners, I don’t try to justify my actions by selectively promoting them while looking down my nose at those that don’t think the same.
Again not saying that’s you in particular, but that is the general theme amongst most of the staunch EV proponents here. Even the ones who don’t have the coin to buy one.
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pianotuna
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for me an ev would be perfect for a car.
for towing, not quite yet.
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Heres nother way of reducing polution of transport
Methanol made from carbon capture
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Grit dog
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pianotuna wrote:for me an ev would be perfect for a car.
for towing, not quite yet.
But it actually wouldn’t. Based on your own admissions. Multiple ones from the environment you live in to the cost. As much as you want something, if it doesn’t make sense it’s not perfect for you…..if you think about it.
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shelbyfv
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Grit dog wrote:shelbyfv wrote:Yep, having choices is usually a good thing. I wouldn't choose an EV right now to pull a 40' mobile home but one would work fine for my wife's commute to the gym. I'm happy to see infrastructure expanding and technology improving!
For sure. And we each in our own way spend unnecessary money on things or luxuries that “we” want. Myself included.
But the flip side to what you said, is that $5000 fuel sipping old commuter would get her to the gym just the same, but cheaper, albeit without the fanfare and image you/she is trying to put forth.
I feel the point that is lost here is that generally those who are advocates are either above the median income/wealth range and it’s a combination status symbol and an adjectival representation of what they want people to think about them or literally going for the most basic compact commuter car.
Not bagging on your choice. I could say the same for myself with a stable full of fuel guzzlers. They’re what I prefer.
The difference is, unlike many EV owners, I don’t try to justify my actions by selectively promoting them while looking down my nose at those that don’t think the same.
Again not saying that’s you in particular, but that is the general theme amongst most of the staunch EV proponents here. Even the ones who don’t have the coin to buy one. That's just not been my experience. I know a half dozen EV owners and other than being affluent (same as most buyers of new HD trucks) none of that describes them. I don't think any of them care what other folks drive. Not saying your experience hasn't been different. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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