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we've done the drill baby drill thing and sell crude on the world market.....at world market prices.
Right now rigs on my oil rights leases are shut down waiting for higher crude prices so drilling more wells doesn't mean more crude = low fuel prices at the pump. WE had a crude glut but oil producers slowed production rate to keep crude prices up.

ICE will be around for many more years. IMO There is a place for EV's especially in large meto areas.


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Wildtoad,

The Bolt is going to be discontinued. A sad thing imo.

As to towns without a charge point, a drier outlet can do a LOT of charging--and it is much less expensive than fuel.

My Class C costs $0.40 cents per kilometre to drive. If I could get an EV class C I'd jump at it.


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Yes, it is a shame that the Bolt is being discontinued, but IMO it sends a huge message. If Americans won't embrace what is probably the lowest priced, very affordable EV, it looks like the mainstream buyer is not ready for EV's. Bring on the economical ICE's and hybrids. I think they're here to stay for quite a while.


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Suburban homes or homes with carports/garages/off street parking can take advantage of at home charging. Apartment dwellers not so much so and will still need to visit a fueling station where the costs go up, fueling and wait times are longer.

I would have no issue buying a EV if the cost to purchase was comparable to ICE, the weight of the vehicle was similar to ICE, the ability to haul stuff was comparable, can be recharged in 5 minutes, and could be towed 4 down. So far I can’t find one.


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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

Yes, it is a shame that the Bolt is being discontinued, but IMO it sends a huge message. If Americans won't embrace what is probably the lowest priced, very affordable EV, it looks like the mainstream buyer is not ready for EV's. Bring on the economical ICE's and hybrids. I think they're here to stay for quite a while.


The bolt is being discontinued because they lose too much money on them. The price has to be as low as it is to compete with Teslas 38000 dollar model 3 which is a superior car in every way. Essentially they just got priced out of the market.

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wildtoad wrote:

Suburban homes or homes with carports/garages/off street parking can take advantage of at home charging. Apartment dwellers not so much so and will still need to visit a fueling station where the costs go up, fueling and wait times are longer.

I would have no issue buying a EV if the cost to purchase was comparable to ICE, the weight of the vehicle was similar to ICE, the ability to haul stuff was comparable, can be recharged in 5 minutes, and could be towed 4 down. So far I can’t find one.


Re apartments. Where we are public charging is common in apartments and condo complexes.

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pianotuna wrote:

Wildtoad,

The Bolt is going to be discontinued. A sad thing imo.

As to towns without a charge point, a drier outlet can do a LOT of charging--and it is much less expensive than fuel.

My Class C costs $0.40 cents per kilometre to drive. If I could get an EV class C I'd jump at it.


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wildtoad wrote:

Suburban homes or homes with carports/garages/off street parking can take advantage of at home charging. Apartment dwellers not so much so and will still need to visit a fueling station where the costs go up, fueling and wait times are longer.

I would have no issue buying a EV if the cost to purchase was comparable to ICE, the weight of the vehicle was similar to ICE, the ability to haul stuff was comparable, can be recharged in 5 minutes, and could be towed 4 down. So far I can’t find one.


Re apartments. Where we are public charging is common in apartments and condo complexes.


And where the majority of North Americans live it is not common. Actually non-existent.

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midnightsadie wrote:

why arn,t they selling. I live in a town of 9k, not one charging station in this town.and my opinion there junk , gas will come back to a much lower price. in about a year.


No man, you mustn’t be looking in the right places….havent you heard, they’re all over the place. Apartment complexes, the local laundromat and Dollar General, can’t swing a dead cat without hitting one!
Unfortunately I think you’re right and we will see a considerable correction in fuel prices as well as some not so fun economic things to go along with those great fuel prices.
Unless we all go spend more money keeping the Fed pumped up with extra tax money, like has happened the last couple years.

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wildtoad wrote:

Suburban homes or homes with carports/garages/off street parking can take advantage of at home charging. Apartment dwellers not so much so and will still need to visit a fueling station where the costs go up, fueling and wait times are longer.

I would have no issue buying a EV if the cost to purchase was comparable to ICE, the weight of the vehicle was similar to ICE, the ability to haul stuff was comparable, can be recharged in 5 minutes, and could be towed 4 down. So far I can’t find one.


Re apartments. Where we are public charging is common in apartments and condo complexes.


You think there is enough should a large number of renters / condo owners switch to EV’s?

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