Groover
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GM's production and "sales" of EVs, including pickup trucks, went up by a large percentage in the 3rd quarter. But they count vehicles as sold when the dealer takes them. The Bolt seems to be selling to consumers well but the Hummer, maybe not. Is it that consumers don't want them or is it the ridiculous markups the dealers are putting on the Hummer?
GM 3rd qtr EV sales
From autoevolution:
"Despite GM reporting 1,167 GMC Hummer EVs sold in the third quarter, many still lie on dealer lots, waiting for a buyer. A quick search on CarEdge reveals that 976 brand-new GMC Hummer EVs are available at dealerships. If you filter out the vehicles still in transit, 651 units are still waiting for a buyer. If you want to find out why, just look at the prices. Many are listed at more than $150,000, sometimes even $200,000. This means the dealer markups on these units are outrageous, in some cases as high as $100,000.
Of course, not all of them were reported as sold in the third quarter. CarEdge also mentions how long they've been on the market, so we used this filter. Remarkably, 849 of them have been on the market for between 7 and 97 days, which means they were likely delivered from July through September. This sounds like almost the entire third-quarter production is still waiting for a buyer."
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BB_TX
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Groover wrote:GM's production and "sales" of EVs, including pickup trucks, went up by a large percentage in the 3rd quarter. But they count vehicles as sold when the dealer takes them. ..........
True of all vehicles. All those thousands of EV, hybrid, and ICE vehicles setting on dealer lots count as sold.
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The HummEE don’t count. It’s a rich people’s toy.
Heck, aside from the low end Teslas and some of the other little electric cars, the rest are just overpriced toys that don’t pencil out.
Supply and demand though. The prices will level out eventually. Unless the govt keeps it from happening. And they’re trying hard to keep that from happening.
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I think some of the newer companies like Lucid, Rivian and Tesla don’t count them sold until they are delivered. But for the most part they don’t stock them on lots either.
We have noticed a bunch of mustangs sitting on the ford lot but when we looked they all had big upcharges on them. Not sure why they do that. They are literally more expensive than a tesla model Y here. Weird.
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I thought GM quit making the Bolt. I haven’t seen an ad for them lately. I expect a big push back EV’s and more attention paid to hybrids, alternate fuels, and a lot of folks putting off buying a new car until their existing one just falls apart. Then they’ll by a used car.
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BB_TX wrote:Groover wrote:GM's production and "sales" of EVs, including pickup trucks, went up by a large percentage in the 3rd quarter. But they count vehicles as sold when the dealer takes them. ..........
True of all vehicles. All those thousands of EV, hybrid, and ICE vehicles setting on dealer lots count as sold.
I am fairly certain that Tesla does not. Heck, they own the sales outlets so the cars would still belong to Tesla anyway.
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Groover wrote:BB_TX wrote:Groover wrote:GM's production and "sales" of EVs, including pickup trucks, went up by a large percentage in the 3rd quarter. But they count vehicles as sold when the dealer takes them. ..........
True of all vehicles. All those thousands of EV, hybrid, and ICE vehicles setting on dealer lots count as sold.
I am fairly certain that Tesla does not. Heck, they own the sales outlets so the cars would still belong to Tesla anyway.
True. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ford someday breaks out their EV division from the rest of the company. They are getting a lot of push back from the dealers apparently. Maybe go to an internet model like Rivian or Tesla. Here is the price. Pick it up in 6 weeks. Pretty nice purchase experience.
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why arn,t they selling. I live in a town of 9k, not one charging station in this town.and my opinion there junk , gas will come back to a much lower price. in about a year.
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Groover
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midnightsadie wrote:why arn,t they selling. I live in a town of 9k, not one charging station in this town.and my opinion there junk , gas will come back to a much lower price. in about a year.
There is no charging station in my entire county but you really want a home charging station regardless. And, there are plenty of charging stations along most routes that I would want to drive. Tesla is building chargers by the thousands so the situation is rapidly improving. We really enjoy having a Tesla Model Y and will definitely consider a Cybertruck when it is available.
Don't expect ICE engines or gasoline to come down in price with politics the way they are. I expect to still have several ICE engines for quite a few more years but I don't foresee any big price cuts coming.
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me either ,they just don,t fit a country life stye they,ll work just fine for some people.not for others.and I agree with that guy that said drill baby drill. have a nice day.
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