wowens79
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I'm not sure if Granger Ford in Iowa is considered high volume, but they have the best Ford prices I've seen. On ordered trucks they sell them for 2% below invoice, and only a $200 doc fee. They have a super smooth order process.
I flew from ATL to Iowa to get my 2022 F-350, and saved over $6,000 even with travel expenses. They pick you up at the airport, and have the truck out front waiting for you, and show you around the truck and answer any questions, then the paper work took 5 min, and then we were on our way home. It was the best car buying process, and the best price.
The actual building is a little small town dealer, but they know how to sell trucks.
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Spoon-
A friend at the dealership just took delivery of his 2023- F350 -XLT- long bed- 6.7.. here is his payload- 4,326#
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Lantley
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spoon059 wrote:ford truck guy wrote:what are you looking for? 3/4 ton,1 ton? DRW, SRW ? trim level?
Researching right now, but looking at 1 ton trucks in either XLT or Lariat. The bride will need to decide if XLT has enough gadgets for her or not.
I'm curious how much actual payload is available in the 12,400 GVWR trucks with those trim levels. Otherwise, might be looking at a DRW.
Get the dually and forget about any payload concerns.
While you may have to avoid a drive thru you will never have any regrets while towing, which appears to be the sole reason for buying the truck.
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wowens79
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My 2022 F-350 gasser has 4204lbs of Payload, and with the 4.30 gears, towing of like 20k.
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spoon059
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ford truck guy wrote:My brother in law has a 2022 Lariat with the 12,400#,,, his payload is 3500 I believe... If I get a chance tomorrow I will take a look at one of our 350's to see the trim and payload for you.
Wow, that surprises me and seems low. I think most diesel F250s have 2000ish lbs of payload and a 10K lbs GVWR. I can't imagine a F350 weighs much more, but has an additional 2400 lbs of GVWR. I was expecting 4000-4500 lbs of payload, depending on trim level.
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ford truck guy wrote:Spoon-
A friend at the dealership just took delivery of his 2023- F350 -XLT- long bed- 6.7.. here is his payload- 4,326#
That sounds much better, thanks!
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Lantley wrote:Get the dually and forget about any payload concerns.
While you may have to avoid a drive thru you will never have any regrets while towing, which appears to be the sole reason for buying the truck.
Towing will be a priority, but it will be my full time vehicle as well. Not opposed to a dually if it's neccessary, but they are kinda hard to find and might be way overkill anyways.
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Depending upon the option pkg, cab style, a SW 25/35 series rig may have more or less the same payload as a dw. My 8600 GVWR GM 2500 reg cab gas with very few options mind you, had 3700 lbs of payload, meanwhile the 11,200 gvwr DW CC D/A rig I had, was 4100 per the door stickers on both. I only had 1200 or so to the axel limits on the 2500, and close to 2000 for the SDW rig. Depending upon the how you want to classify the payload. SOME SW rigs may have as much or more payload, easier driving etc than a DW rig.
Generally speaking, also a gas rig will have 400-600 lbs more payload than a diesel assuming the same specs all around with options, axle capacities etc. Being as the motor is lighter than the diesel. A short bed ie 6' bed will net you 200-300 lbs more payload than a std 8' bed, again, assuming the same options etc on both rigs. Ext vs crew cabs are also about 300-400 lbs difference.
There were three of us at one time, that had 05 DW GM CC rigs. One a lower level rwd, he was 400 lbs less wieght than my LS 4wd, I was 200 lbs lighter than the other with a full leather bucket seat setup.
Amazing what some of the options add wieght wise to screw over the brochure payload numbers.
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Looks like a longbed from the Big 3 gets you the option for a higher GVWR, which I am leaning towards if I'm getting a 5th wheel. I'm leaning heavily towards a diesel.
Ford gives you a 48 gallon tank in their longbed diesels, Ram gives you the option of a 52 gallon for a small upcharge. Those will obviously eat into the GVWR.
We still don't know what camper we're going to get, but leaning towards a 40ish foot long 5th wheel, possibly toyhauler. Not planning on hauling anything particularly heavy either, bicycles and maybe a kayak or two now, maybe a motorcycle in a couple years.
This will be my primary vehicle. If I can make it work with a SRW, that is preferred. If I find out that my pin weight will be too much for that, then I don't mind a DRW, they are just difficult to find right now.
Thankfully truck purchase is at least 2 years away. Hoping that the UAW labor issues, supply issues and financial instability in the country settle down at least slightly before I undertake such a purchase...
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Lantley
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A 40 ish foot long toy hauler requires a DRW.
We often forget our objective and put too much emphasis on non factors.
If you were need to install big nails you would get a big hammer.
You would not buy a medium hammer or a small hammer.
You would not get a medium hammer because it was easier to reach.
You would not get a medium hammer because it was a little cheaper.
You would get a big hammer to use with the big nails.
Sounds like you want are shopping for the biggest 5th wheels available.
You need to shop for the biggest truck available.
Don't let non factors cloud your judgement.
Will it fit in the garage, can I get into the drive thru, are all non factors when it comes to towing a 40 ish long fifth wheel.
I drive a DRW daily its really no worse than a long bed CC truck.
Length is a bigger factor when it comes to maneuverability and nimbleness vs. width. You're not going to just zip around in a SRW CC long bed truck.
Both SRW or DRW CC long bed trucks require you to park a little farther away and are not great in urban areas.
If you consider the mirrors a SRW is just as wide as a DRW.
Yes I'm trying to say get the dually you won't regret it for a 5'er that big.
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