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KnowNuthin

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This first part of my post is a rant, as I can’t believe what was done to us and our property… feel free to skip to the third paragraph to avoid my vitriol… on we go…

We had some “guests” on our rural property, staying in their RV. Well, it began as one RV… they dragged two more here as time went on...The 30-to-40 year old trailers they bought couldn’t keep up with the rigors of full-time living of two adults, one adult child, two small children and three VERY unfriendly biting dogs (I was bitten once, Julie twice and our dogs were terrified of running on our 20 acre property for fear of being cornered and torn into).... Initially, they were invited to stay with us for six to eight weeks while they secured permanent digs... then came a herd of six goats... then chickens, ducks, rabbits and two cats...most of the time, they "didn't have the money" to pay their share of the utility bill... "We'll make it up to you..." . Two years later, while we were away, on vacation, they finally moved on, moving from our home in rural Montana to Lynchburg, VA.

All along, I was giving them suggestions on how to best take care of day-to-day living. Most, if not all, of my suggestions were dismissed out of hand… "he knows what he is doing, leave us alone" is all I got in return...occasionally, I would see a drum in the back of his pickup, thinking he was taking a full drum to town to dump it in a local RV dump... I shoulda known... now I’m paying the price… this is after they "cleaned up"...

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Trash I can deal with, rent a dump trailer and load it up with the tractor... I'll give away the two remaining trailers or pay to have them disposed of, the biggest issue I have is eight 55 gallon drums of black tank waste...

I have no idea what to do with them... I've called our local waste water people (most of the county has individual septic systems, all the pumped out vault contents go to a central waste water facility)...

I've tried the "We Handle Any Type of Waste" companies, they only deal with "industrial" waste...

I really don't want to open my septic tank lid and dump it in there as 400 odd gallons would over tax our 1000 gallon tank...

I've considered loading all the drums onto a flatbed trailer they left behind (the one full of trash in the photo above). towing it to Virginia and leaving it in the offenders new driveway... that's probably my last resort (but not entirely out of the question)...

I'm open to suggestions ... Anyone?

Oh, and for those who read my entire rant... thanks for letting me vent...doesn't help my issue much but my mind is somewhat more relaxed now...


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Posted: 09/24/23 12:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok, why did you allow them to stay there in the first place, any for so long? I’d call a septic tank clean out company to come pump out the drums, might get you system pumped at the same time. Then pay someone to clean out all the trash including the empty drums.


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Rent a backhoe and dig a big hole? Dump said wastes and wait a couple of day and re-cover the hole. No worse (I suppose) than a septic tank.
I sure as heck would not haul it in my truck. Maybe some septic service could pump the drums out for you?

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wildtoad wrote:

Ok, why did you allow them to stay there in the first place, any for so long?

Wife’s daughter and son-in-law… I encouraged them to leave several times as hard as I thought I could get away with…

Happy wife… happy life (to a degree…)

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Posted: 09/24/23 01:44pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Call the porta-poty company or sewer pump out company


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I would call a septic service.

Looks like you have some land. Build up a big bon fire, burn the barrels, then haul them to a metal recycler.

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I forgot one rather important detail… the drums have non-removable tops… there’s a one inch bung and a 2.5” (?) bung…. A standard septic truck suction hose won’t fit inside those holes…

This is the gift that keeps on giving…

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KnowNuthin wrote:

wildtoad wrote:

Ok, why did you allow them to stay there in the first place, any for so long?

Wife’s daughter and son-in-law… I encouraged them to leave several times as hard as I thought I could get away with…

Happy wife… happy life (to a degree…)


Family issues are different from random kindness to strangers...totally changes the tone of the story. That said, have an exit strategy if you are going to help someone. Time frame, rules and expectations...most trouble makers will bow out if held to a standard...and you can still tell your wife, you tried to help.

A septic company should be able to drain the barrels but don't be surprised if thy are nervous about draining random barrels without some evidence they don't hold toxic waste or something else beyond sewage.

If you can't get a septic company to handle it, digging a hole is probably your best bet if you are out of sight of neighbors. If it is just sewage and not close to a shallow well, creek or other water source, it's pretty harmless. If it's just some "back 40" acreage not used for anything else, just dumping on the ground and letting it sit for a couple months isn't going to hurt anything. (Of course, officially it will certainly not be allowed.)


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Posted: 09/24/23 03:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

KnowNuthin wrote:

I forgot one rather important detail… the drums have non-removable tops… there’s a one inch bung and a 2.5” (?) bung…. A standard septic truck suction hose won’t fit inside those holes…

This is the gift that keeps on giving…


Won't be fun but a Sawzall can make a larger hole.

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Use a cutting torch to cut an appropriate sized hole in the top. That is assuming a septic pumping company will pump them out. They may very well say “no” since they have no idea if the barrels are full of something other than what you think is inside.
My backup plan, assuming you are on rural acreage, would be the backhoe, dig a deep pit, empty the drums, cover up with dirt and forget about it. Rinse and dispose of the drums at the landfill.
Personally I would at least think about telling the wife “your kids, you wanted them here, you argued to let them stay, your problem, you handle it”

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