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ls1mike

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...and before you squawk about all those body panels being replaced rather than pounded out by the body shop, remember the body shop charges well in excess of $100 an hour for labor.

I am not sure I understand, why would someone not want new ones unless they were paying out of pocket and trying to save money? No way would I want repaired ones, the best decision was to total it. I wasn't thrilled when they mentioned complete frame swap. I was surprised at how pricey the headlights were!


That was the main complaint about the aluminum body Ford F150s: Can't body work the panels back into shape, only replace.

Of course you'd want new body panels! You ALWAYS want new body panels. Even these guys that complain about not being able to "fix" Ford body panels would DEMAND new panels for their F150 if theirs got wrecked.


Ah got it! Well I am going to look at a couple trucks today. It hurts my soul as the old one was paid off, but hey it will be my first brand new truck.


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I have had a 2024 gas Silverado 3500 Crew Cab SWB LT 2WD since start of February. (It was a GM Captured Test Fleet - forbidden from discussing). I am now over 10k miles. I have absolutely enjoyed this gas vehicle. I have towed my trailer (9600lbs) several times. Just under 8 mpg towing. Mine does have the large screen, trailer package. I have not had any issues. My 2022 diesel has sat unused (except for hauling hay in our constantly wet fields this summer because of 4WD). If I was buying another truck, I would definitely purchase a gas truck. (My towing is Michigan and trips to Iowa/Nebraska.) It has pulled everything I have fine. I had a 2020 with the 6.6 gas that I towed 16k on gooseneck with no issue. Let me know if you have any further questions.


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Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Mike
I have had a 2024 gas Silverado 3500 Crew Cab SWB LT 2WD since start of February. (It was a GM Captured Test Fleet - forbidden from discussing). I am now over 10k miles. I have absolutely enjoyed this gas vehicle. I have towed my trailer (9600lbs) several times. Just under 8 mpg towing. Mine does have the large screen, trailer package. I have not had any issues. My 2022 diesel has sat unused (except for hauling hay in our constantly wet fields this summer because of 4WD). If I was buying another truck, I would definitely purchase a gas truck. (My towing is Michigan and trips to Iowa/Nebraska.) It has pulled everything I have fine. I had a 2020 with the 6.6 gas that I towed 16k on gooseneck with no issue. Let me know if you have any further questions.


I really appreciate it. I drove a Gas 1 ton and 3/4 ton today. The big difference was the 1 ton had the big screen, it was ok so I don't need it, but I think this is the one.
2024 3/4 ton gasser
I have to say a lot more truck than my 17 was. SUPER quiet.

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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

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Wow, hard to believe that the frame was bent from what otherwise looks like minor damage... Hope the at-fault driver's insurance makes you whole. Nothing worse than losing an adequate paid-for vehicle because of someone else's negligence...


I agree. It just shows us where the manufacturer's priorities lie -- certainly not in crush zones or other such features keyed to minimizing collision damage. It's a shame that such minor damage yields a total loss. Well, up goes everyone's insurance premiums because of it.

Thank you for the info!

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Mike
Not too many folks posting recently. The few that have posted about them like them. Better than the 6sp you have.
Being as the 10 sp has a 4.5-1 fist gear vs the 6 @ 4.1-1. Going with a 3.73, ene a 3.42 will have as much or more go power as you current rig. Lower rpm at 60....
I'd probably choose a 3.73, or the 4.1, only because I've put a 1-2" larger diameter tire on the last few I've owned. That 2" tire changes GR from a 4.1 to an effective 3.73. An inch to a 3.95'ish ratio.

Go buy one, don't look back!

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Thanks Marty.

Looks like the only gear ratio available for 2024 is the 3.73. Everything I have seen or read says good things and MPG is way better than my old 6.0. I am bummed the 17 got wrecked I looked for that truck for 3 years. I wanted a long bed with rubber floors and limited options. Hard to find rubber floors and a long bed right now.
So I am looking at 2 3/4 ton on LT one custom and on 1 ton custom. Both out the door for under 63,000. Truck prices are stupid. [emoticon] Which hurts my soul as I am not a truck guy and don't daily drive it. Maybe it gets 3000 miles a year on it, 5000 on a heavy year.

I was out camping when this happened. My 17 year old son has a 2003 LB7 Duramax he came out and towed the trailer home. To be honest it is a good truck with 227,000 miles on it, but it really didn't tow the trailer much differently then my 17 did. So I decided I just don't need a diesel. 401 HP and 464 FT/lbs of torque should be plenty for the trailers I tow. The heaviest being about 8200lbs.


Regarding the horsepower and torque figures you mentioned. Those are good numbers. The big difference between gas and diesel is where the torque is developed in the RPM range. My 2013 Duramax developes 765 lb/ft. of torque, but it is at 1600 RPM. That's called real easy and quiet uphill towing. And the exhaust brake is nice going downhills. But if you don't do a whole lot of mountain towing, the gas engine should be great. Please, no one get mad here, just my thoughts and opinions.


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Why would you buy a brand new truck if you’re “not a truck guy” and only put half an oil change a year worth of miles on it?
Consider the “gift” you got when your truck got totaled and go buy another one, just like it. With low miles, for less money than your settlement.
Financially that is the best solution. Especially with a declining economy and very inflated truck prices still.
And yes I’m very well aware of prices then (2017) and now.
Heck for 3k miles a year, I’d throttle back to a much older, low miles grampa truck. Any gasser new enough to have a 6 speed (except a Ram with a 66rfe) or any pre tier IV diesel. (But those 2000s diesels bring too much money for what they’re worth).


Edit: My response above was predicated on the assumption that you have some sort of “normal” income. If the cost of a new truck is less than 20% of your annual income, what I said doesn’t apply I suppose.

* This post was edited 10/01/23 10:01am by Grit dog *


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Vintage,

MTN towing in my mind is subjective. For me it is over 6000' elevation. The 3-5K foot passes here in the NW US, a turbo or forced induction motor, while nice, not needed generally speaking. Over 6000', with an HP loss of 18-20% and higher above this elevation, this is where a turbo diesel, one of the turbo gas units, ie an Eco boost as an example help.
Newer gas rigs are better at keeping their HP/torque at elevation than a carb rig, or even TBI rigs, which are nothing more than an electric controlled carb.
Forced induction motors are nice options I admit. The trailer size etc Mike is pulling, he'll be fine with ANY of a gas rigs generally speaking. Along with a $6-10K hit for a diesel, it'll take awhile to pay off the difference in fuel mileage, yeah one gets a higher price on resale.....

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Grit dog wrote:

Why would you buy a brand new truck if you’re “not a truck guy” and only put half an oil change a year worth of miles on it?
Consider the “gift” you got when your truck got totaled and go buy another one, just like it. With low miles, for less money than your settlement.
Financially that is the best solution. Especially with a declining economy and very inflated truck prices still.
And yes I’m very well aware of prices then (2017) and now.
Heck for 3k miles a year, I’d throttle back to a much older, low miles grampa truck. Any gasser new enough to have a 6 speed (except a Ram with a 66rfe) or any pre tier IV diesel. (But those 2000s diesels bring too much money for what they’re worth).

Edit: My response above was predicated on the assumption that you have some sort of “normal” income. If the cost of a new truck is less than 20% of your annual income, what I said doesn’t apply I suppose.


Less than 20 percent of my annual income. You live out here you know what truck prices are. I did buy the truck I listed and financed under 20,000. Worth it to me, because even with the pay out everything had double the miles of my old truck and I for once I wanted a new one. Every truck I looked at that I could just write a check for was for was not great. Every truck I have owned since 1993 has been purchased used. 88 Chevy 3/4 ton, 89 GMC 1 ton, 2004 1/2 ton Silverado, 2002 Chevy 3/4 ton and my 2017 Chevy 1 ton which only had 28,000 miles on it when I got it. The payout on my old truck was 46,850. I don't want a diesel. Have no need for one. My kid has an 03 LB7. If no one pulls out in front of me I see no reason not to get 20 years out of this one. The 02 I had for 10 years. I was supposed to keep the 2017 until I retired which would have meant 17 years of ownership.
At any rate here it is. Much more truck than the 2017.
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blt2ski wrote:

Vintage,

MTN towing in my mind is subjective. For me it is over 6000' elevation. The 3-5K foot passes here in the NW US, a turbo or forced induction motor, while nice, not needed generally speaking. Over 6000', with an HP loss of 18-20% and higher above this elevation, this is where a turbo diesel, one of the turbo gas units, ie an Eco boost as an example help.
Newer gas rigs are better at keeping their HP/torque at elevation than a carb rig, or even TBI rigs, which are nothing more than an electric controlled carb.
Forced induction motors are nice options I admit. The trailer size etc Mike is pulling, he'll be fine with ANY of a gas rigs generally speaking. Along with a $6-10K hit for a diesel, it'll take awhile to pay off the difference in fuel mileage, yeah one gets a higher price on resale.....

Marty

Correct and the truck I just picked up is way more truck than my 17 and that did fine all over the place out here including the continental divide. None of my trailers are over 8000lbs I like having the 3/4 ton or better because of the length of the trailers I tow. My trailer is 35 feet 10 inches. The parade float I tow for the Submarine veterans has a heavy tongue weight and is over 30 feet. I also have a 22 foot boat.

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Mike,

While neighbor and I have 1500's, I see some of the new 14 on stuff added, like the step on the bumper, yet I see the 21 or 22 next door, and some of the stuff on it. I hope you enjoy it!

Marty

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