time2roll
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way2roll wrote:time2roll wrote:mosseater wrote:I think we should try steam again as well. Yes and fired with coal or heavy sulfur crude
Anyone know the range of a steam train engine before needing water?
Farther than an EV. :-) Are you sure?
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During the very early days of steam locomotives, water stops were necessary every 7–10 miles (11–16 km) and consumed much travel time. With the introduction of tenders (a special car containing water and fuel), trains could run 100–150 miles (160–240 km) without a refill.
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time2roll
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Or compare to a Stanley Steamer....
After going through the 17 steps necessary to start this car and then waiting 30 to 40 minutes for enough steam pressure to build, a driver could expect to travel about 35 to 45 miles before needing to stop and refill the 28-gallon tank with water. The water was heated by vaporized kerosene.
Technology could probably improve this a bit but still careful what you wish for.
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I will say this.... I left my career of 40+ years for several reasons, non of which have to do with camping... I started a non stress job working for a friend that owns a chain of Auto dealerships.. 2 Mazda, 2 Subaru, and 7 Ford...
I am a driver and move vehicles form dealership to dealership, make new vehicle deliveries, so on...
My ( Long winded ) point is, I have gotten to drive some pretty cool vehicles, and 1 is the Lightening ... That truck is a nice ride ! ! Will I own one NO... But they are very comfortable and a great handling truck...
They have a place here, not my place, not many on here's place, but SOME people want them...
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Latner
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ford truck guy wrote:I will say this.... I left my career of 40+ years for several reasons, non of which have to do with camping... I started a non stress job working for a friend that owns a chain of Auto dealerships.. 2 Mazda, 2 Subaru, and 7 Ford...
I am a driver and move vehicles form dealership to dealership, make new vehicle deliveries, so on...
My ( Long winded ) point is, I have gotten to drive some pretty cool vehicles, and 1 is the Lightening ... That truck is a nice ride ! ! Will I own one NO... But they are very comfortable and a great handling truck...
They have a place here, not my place, not many on here's place, but SOME people want them...
Whoever wants an EV can buy one. The problem is the people who don't want them are being pushed in that direction. "We will end fossil fuels" and shutting down fossil fuel production does not sound like people having much of a choice.
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Lots of people complaining about automobiles being foisted on the poor horse owners and putting blacksmiths out of business here. I think TurnThePage’s post was dead on. Maybe it’s time to put the politics away on this forum and get back to camping
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Latner
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MNRon wrote:Lots of people complaining about automobiles being foisted on the poor horse owners and putting blacksmiths out of business here. I think TurnThePage’s post was dead on. Maybe it’s time to put the politics away on this forum and get back to camping
I agree! There is just too much division on this EV topic for it to even show up on a rv forum where most are using gas/diesel to enjoy their camping adventures. Until it's an actual viable option, I don't see the point in the discussion.
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nickthehunter
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MNRon wrote:Lots of people complaining about automobiles being foisted on the poor horse owners and putting blacksmiths out of business here. I think TurnThePage’s post was dead on. Maybe it’s time to put the politics away on this forum and get back to camping No one ever mandated that you could no longer buy a horse for basic transportation and had to use a car instead. Horses were put out to pasture by the public’s acceptance of the automobiles as a more viable alternative.. Conversely, officials are mandating that you can no longer buy ice cars for basic transportation, and are making EV’s the only viable alternative.
Point being - it's a false equivalence, horses were never outlawed and ice vehicles foisted on them instead.
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I am getting suspicious and hopeful that the F200 will be what has been sold as the max payload version of the F150. Hopefully upgraded to 8 lug wheels and 8,800lbs GVWR. I have no data to base that on but it just makes sense to me. With the least GVWR of the F250 being 10,000lbs this could bridge the gap between the F150 and F250, as the name implies.
The max payload F150 does already have a significantly sturdier frame than the regular model does so I don't think that boosting it up to 8,800lbs would be much of stretch.
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