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My SIL used Predator 3500 for a several years, just sold it for $400 and had several people wanting it at that price. He used it at a primitive camp and shared the power with a friend’s camper. With proper location, you could forget it was running. He had a toy hauler at the time so he could run it up the ramp, if desired, for hauling. He’s a big guy and had no trouble lifting it into the truck. Me, forget it. 105# & bulky, IIRC.


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Grit dog wrote:

You do realize eco mode is like eco boost? It’s only eco until you need the power.

Yes, I do. It works great any time you need less than full power output, which is the case when running A/C. It only needs to start then the running power is much lower. On eco mode the generator slows back down to a moderate speed making it quieter and use less fuel.

Basically, I've never (continuously) needed all of the power so pretty much always benefit from eco mode.

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jimh406 wrote:

Based on what I've seen on YouTube, buy the extended warranty. That being said, I don't have a standalone generator. Also, they are a bit louder than a Honda or Yamaha, but they do cost A HECK OF A LOT less.


Fixed that for you.

We went with a Champion 4500w to replace our Yamaha 2400w. Even though it's not the fancy name, it's actually quieter because the smaller 2400w unit was running at about 3/4 throttle with the air/con running while the 4500w unit is at around 1/4 throttle.


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valhalla360 wrote:

jimh406 wrote:

Based on what I've seen on YouTube, buy the extended warranty. That being said, I don't have a standalone generator. Also, they are a bit louder than a Honda or Yamaha, but they do cost A HECK OF A LOT less.


Fixed that for you.

We went with a Champion 4500w to replace our Yamaha 2400w. Even though it's not the fancy name, it's actually quieter because the smaller 2400w unit was running at about 3/4 throttle with the air/con running while the 4500w unit is at around 1/4 throttle.


Not really, you seemed to buy a Champion which is not a Predator. [emoticon]

Fwiw, I haven't run across Champions with issues, but that's not the same as saying they don't have them.


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jimh406 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

jimh406 wrote:

Based on what I've seen on YouTube, buy the extended warranty. That being said, I don't have a standalone generator. Also, they are a bit louder than a Honda or Yamaha, but they do cost A HECK OF A LOT less.


Fixed that for you.

We went with a Champion 4500w to replace our Yamaha 2400w. Even though it's not the fancy name, it's actually quieter because the smaller 2400w unit was running at about 3/4 throttle with the air/con running while the 4500w unit is at around 1/4 throttle.


Not really, you seemed to buy a Champion which is not a Predator. [emoticon]

Fwiw, I haven't run across Champions with issues, but that's not the same as saying they don't have them.


Pick a brand...once you get past Honda & Yamaha, they are ALL A HECK OF A LOT CHEAPER. Generally at least half the cost and the modern knock offs are generally pretty good machines. Most of the complaints you see on youtube are from honda aficionados trying to justify the high prices.

We bought he Yamaha because at the time it was Honda or Yamaha if you wanted inverter. We got rid of it because it had issues. First shop couldn't fix it. Tried a second shop and with the cost of parts it was cheaper to buy the new Champion which was larger and had more features (both were yamaha affiliated)...don't buy the myth that "red" or "blue" are immune to problems.

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valhalla360 wrote:

...don't buy the myth that "red" or "blue" are immune to problems.


Sure, you can believe it’s a myth from all of the people who buy Hondas and Yamahas with no issues. The rest of us think there might be something to the anecdotes. As always, YMMV.

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jimh406 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

...don't buy the myth that "red" or "blue" are immune to problems.


Sure, you can believe it’s a myth from all of the people who buy Hondas and Yamahas with no issues. The rest of us think there might be something to the anecdotes. As always, YMMV.


Anecdotes are just that. Most of the hype comes from guys with 10-15yr old generators....surprise, no one else had inverter generators that far back, so of course they can "prove" they last longer.

Not saying they are poor quality, just very expensive... reminds me of the hype with fine precision German cars. At one time there was a grain of truth but other companies have long since caught up.

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valhalla360 wrote:

reminds me of the hype with fine precision German cars. At one time there was a grain of truth but other companies have long since caught up.


Most German cars are not durable any more. When they added the electronics, they turned into very expensive vehicles to maintain.

I don’t think that is the case for Honda and Yamaha generators, but feel free to post all of the negatives. Good luck finding the negatives though. I’ll wait.

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jimh406 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

reminds me of the hype with fine precision German cars. At one time there was a grain of truth but other companies have long since caught up.


Most German cars are not durable any more. When they added the electronics, they turned into very expensive vehicles to maintain.

I don’t think that is the case for Honda and Yamaha generators, but feel free to post all of the negatives. Good luck finding the negatives though. I’ll wait.


Already provided an example if you bothered to read.

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valhalla360 wrote:

Already provided an example if you bothered to read.


One doesn’t equal example(s). Most of us can find one case of almost anything. In any case, still not a Predator.

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