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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:Utility trailer, eh? Just go to WalMart, point at the trailer, and tell 'em to hook you up. I wouldn't spend an excessive amount of time shopping for them, but that's just me!
^What he said.
Or etrailer.com unless you gotta have LT tires. Which I wouldn’t spring the extra $ for (assuming they still cost more than ST tries with the same load rating) unless your utility trailer will be seeing a lot of summertime high speed long road trips.
This is not a difficult process of life decision.
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I am more concerned about having TPMS, compressor and being anal about pressure than I am about brand.
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deltabravo
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I run Goodyear Endurance on my cargo trailers
I run them on my rental Home Depot utility trailer too.
Balance your trailaer tires/wheels too.
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fj12ryder
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Okay, I watched, most, of the video on balancing tires, and no where does he mention that many, perhaps most, trailer wheels are lug-centric, and almost no one will balance lug-centric wheels. I asked a guy at the tire dealer why they don't balance lug-centric wheels and he said they do. But they balance off the center which he said works fine. But if the wheel is balanced hub-centric, but mounts lug-centric, how is that fine? He just kept saying it's not a problem.
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fj12ryder wrote:Okay, I watched, most, of the video on balancing tires, and no where does he mention that many, perhaps most, trailer wheels are lug-centric, and almost no one will balance lug-centric wheels. I asked a guy at the tire dealer why they don't balance lug-centric wheels and he said they do. But they balance off the center which he said works fine. But if the wheel is balanced hub-centric, but mounts lug-centric, how is that fine? He just kept saying it's not a problem.
In theory, the wheels are machined using the center hole as center - and that includes the lug holes. So using the center hole is nearly the same as using the lugs for lug centric wheels.
Besides, there is a tolerance for balancing - which is why they have wheel weights in increments. The difference in balancing using incremental wheel weights is imperceptible to the user. And since trailers aren't designed to be ridden in, close enough is good enough!
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fj12ryder wrote:Okay, I watched, most, of the video on balancing tires, and no where does he mention that many, perhaps most, trailer wheels are lug-centric, and almost no one will balance lug-centric wheels. I asked a guy at the tire dealer why they don't balance lug-centric wheels and he said they do. But they balance off the center which he said works fine. But if the wheel is balanced hub-centric, but mounts lug-centric, how is that fine? He just kept saying it's not a problem.
What does your post even have to do with the OPs weird question?
Regardless, What you said makes zero sense. Most of the wheels you see on the road, on most vehicles are also lug centric….
And if a wheel is that “off” that lug vs hub centric balancing is an issue (it’s not, but let’s suppose we’re talking about a bent handmade wheel off a Model A or some other ridiculous scenario) then you have bigger problems anyway.
But doesn’t matter. OP asked a silly question and then flew the coop and now it’s the typical off topic stuff.
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JIMNLIN
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Trailer hubs don't come machined balanced like automotive hubs on our cars/trucks. Adding weights on the wheel can be a hit or miss.
Also steel trailer wheels and some forged aluminum center hole and lugs are stamped at the time of process. Most stamped lug holes don't come concentric to the bead seat flange.
I've watched a old truck tire dealer/truck repair shop go through his supply of 16" trailer wheels using a engine lath/dial indicators looking for just one that didn't need several 4" long weights in one spot.
Thats a big reason commercial truck tire dealers that are savvy with non automotive wheels recommend spin the tire/wheel/hub ass'y on the trailer and measure the tire for radial and lateral run out. Something most tire shops down on the corner in town don't have much if any experience with.
And short (28"-30") stiff trailer springs are a huge damper for smoothing out of balance vibrations if any.
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fj12ryder
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Well, the wheels on my last trailer were "balanced" by the local guy who does all my tire work, and using a regular tire balancing machine had about 5 lbs. of wheel weights on each tire. So I'm a bit skeptical about how well the trailer tires balance using the hub centric system. I decided "Screw it" when I installed the new Sailuns, and tried out the Centramatic dynamic balancing ring. Does it work? Haven't the foggiest, but nothing has bounced off and the tires look okay.
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fj12ryder
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CapriRacer wrote:fj12ryder wrote:Okay, I watched, most, of the video on balancing tires, and no where does he mention that many, perhaps most, trailer wheels are lug-centric, and almost no one will balance lug-centric wheels. I asked a guy at the tire dealer why they don't balance lug-centric wheels and he said they do. But they balance off the center which he said works fine. But if the wheel is balanced hub-centric, but mounts lug-centric, how is that fine? He just kept saying it's not a problem.
In theory, the wheels are machined using the center hole as center - and that includes the lug holes. So using the center hole is nearly the same as using the lugs for lug centric wheels.
Besides, there is a tolerance for balancing - which is why they have wheel weights in increments. The difference in balancing using incremental wheel weights is imperceptible to the user. And since trailers aren't designed to be ridden in, close enough is good enough! I can see the idea, but my issue isn't with the tires/wheels, it's with the drums that the tires/wheels mount to. How precisely are they positioned in relation to the center ring? Nothing about those drums says "precision". ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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Are wheel balancing machines able to conduct internet searches for tire size...if they are lug centric?
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