scootsk
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My goodness. I started this thread to find out if using carbon fiber ceramic pads are compatible with stock rotors. I never, in a million years, thought that it would cause the same stir as Ford v. Chevy v. Ram. Lol
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scootsk wrote:My goodness. I started this thread to find out if using carbon fiber ceramic pads are compatible with stock rotors. I never, in a million years, thought that it would cause the same stir as Ford v. Chevy v. Ram. Lol
Stick around, we will debate hitches next.
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fj12ryder wrote:Yeah, you just can't trust all these liars. FWIW the head wrench turner at any dealer was probably flipping burgers at Micky D's yesterday.
Kind of boils down to "You're wrong" vs "All these other people are liars". Hmm, that's a tough one.
Yep, just can't trust em LOL.
"My sons 2004 duramax has 260K miles on it with the OEM pads and I suspect they will go another 50K. And I'm not the only one. 3 others I know with GM 3/4 ton trucks have ALL passed 250K on the original brakes. And even with that miles the rotors show very little wear."
That's 260,000 miles claimed and potentially 310,000 miles from factory OEM brake pads. Undisputed proof I would say. I feel really bad for Aftermarket pad manufacturers and places such as Midas, they're going out of business soon.
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scootsk wrote:My goodness. I started this thread to find out if using carbon fiber ceramic pads are compatible with stock rotors. I never, in a million years, thought that it would cause the same stir as Ford v. Chevy v. Ram. Lol
I'll see your Ford/Chevy/Ram and raise you an ST/LT Tire and a tongue weight percentage.
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2001 was the first year for GM upgraded brakes in the 2500/3500 class. I put 126K on my 2011 without touching the brakes. 95K
on my 2011 (sold it early to avoid CP4 problems). Only about 13K on my 2020 so far. But as massive as those brakes are they will likely be the best yet. My dealer has mentioned that they miss the brake job revenue they used to make.
Bottom line: brakes just are not a problem on these trucks
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Huntindog wrote: I put 126K on my 2011 without touching the brakes. 95K
on my 2011 (sold it early to avoid CP4 problems). My dealer has mentioned that they miss the brake job revenue they used to make.
Bottom line: brakes just are not a problem on these trucks
Ok, 126K. That's a longshot off from 260K LOL, and don't believe what your dealer says as he was probably flipping burgers last week at Micky D's LOL.
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Unfortunate that some walk around with a chip on their shoulders these days just wanting to’prove others wrong’ and not willing to take them at their word.
For the record, i also have experienced much better pad mileage on my trucks than when I used to drive a Mustang convertible in the ‘80’s. My 2002 YukonXL 8.1 gasser was traded in in 2013 with 180k miles and original brakes (mostly city driving with work etc). My 2013 Duramax was traded in in 2022, again with about 180k miles and original brakes, this pulled a 15k 5er about a third of those miles or more including over the Rockies several times (it did have an exhaust brake which was always used when towing).
My 2022 F350 now has 26,000 miles on it, the majority towing a 16k 5er. Brakes are fine, but it sure seems to put more brake dust on the front wheels than I remember with the GMs, not sure I want these pads to last as long
FWIW, I drive ~63mph on the Interstate pulling, but frankly do 80%+ of my driving on highways on backroads.
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StonedPanther wrote:scootsk wrote:My goodness. I started this thread to find out if using carbon fiber ceramic pads are compatible with stock rotors. I never, in a million years, thought that it would cause the same stir as Ford v. Chevy v. Ram. Lol
I'll see your Ford/Chevy/Ram and raise you an ST/LT Tire and a tongue weight percentage.
Lol, sooo true. But you gotta add in a good ole discussion about how to push the tow haul button and what does it actually do….
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MNRon wrote:Unfortunate that some walk around with a chip on their shoulders these days just wanting to’prove others wrong’ and not willing to take them at their word.
For the record, i also have experienced much better pad mileage on my trucks than when I used to drive a Mustang convertible in the ‘80’s. My 2002 YukonXL 8.1 gasser was traded in in 2013 with 180k miles and original brakes (mostly city driving with work etc). My 2013 Duramax was traded in in 2022, again with about 180k miles and original brakes, this pulled a 15k 5er about a third of those miles or more including over the Rockies several times (it did have an exhaust brake which was always used when towing).
My 2022 F350 now has 26,000 miles on it, the majority towing a 16k 5er. Brakes are fine, but it sure seems to put more brake dust on the front wheels than I remember with the GMs, not sure I want these pads to last as long
FWIW, I drive ~63mph on the Interstate pulling, but frankly do 80%+ of my driving on highways on backroads.
GM has been using ceramic pads for quite some time now. The last new Super Duty I had was a 2015 and neither it nor my 2016 Ram personal truck came with OE ceramic pads. They were both dust monsters. Idk about the newer models of either, since all my company trucks have been GMs since that 2015 Ford.
Good news is it costs approximately 1/4 of 1% of the cost of a new loaded SuperDuty, or less than 1 full tank of diesel here in Seattle to make the brake dust problem literally disappear….
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This thread needs to close.
The peeing contest should be over.
Hell, I believe some people get 250k out of brake pads….as slow as they drive and as slow as they stop, I’m surprised they actually touch that pedal. And wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see the brake lights.
Drivin around saving them brAke pads for a rainy day, or recollecting the time that the brakes overheated in that ‘53 Merc comin’ down Deadman’s Pass and almost killed ya! Lol.
But bragging about that is like bragging about getting 22mpg highway and 16 towing with your big diesel truck…..it just means you’re going soooo **** slow that 69 people a day tell you you’re number 1 as they pass you!!
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