ScottG
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You'll like the PowerStop pads - mostly.
They have a lot more grip than any stock pads and get even better with a little heat. So if you're in stop and go traffic, they get a little stickier and it takes less pedal effort.
Have a panic stop and you will be surprised - they stop HARD.
The down side is they will eat your rotors. I mean they grind the metal off them so much that they will be done when it's time for new pads.
I also have a RAM 3500 and often tow in the hills. The added stopping force is a fair trade off in rotor life for me - especially when a herd of elk runs out in front of me..
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Wade44
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WOW, this thread is special ROFLMAO.
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^Scott, agree with your assessment wholly with exception of the eats rotors part. I know that’s what is/has been commonly said about ceramic pads but in my experience is wholly false. At least with the half dozen or so vehicles, trucks and cars, that I’ve put 100k + with ceramics on anywhere from 0-100k mile rotors. My experience is with OE ceramic pads, EBC red stuff and super green stuff (whatever they’re called) and a few sets of Z36 power stops. All on original OE rotors.
Even if they did, like you, I’d take the trade off 90% for getting rid of brake dust and 10% for marginally better stopping power.
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^However it’s as subjective as any other opinion. As apparently some folks can get over 150k out of a set of brake pads and some can’t get to the bottom of the hill or to work and back without torching a set of brakes.
Speaking of brakes, a good practice to get into (not due to pad wear but sticking and material transfer) is if one’s brakes are even remotely hot. Like even normal city driving, it is best to not come to a complete stop and keep your foot clamped down on the brake pedal. Even moreso if the brakes are actually hot like say stopping your truck n trailer from highway speeds for a red light that comes up last second.
A good % of “warped rotor” symptoms are actually just uneven buildup of brake pad material on the rotors from cooking the pads to the rotors at a stop.
Good practice to stop a bit early, briefly, then let the vehicle creep up a bit and if need to be stopped like a stoplight, hit neutral and keep zero to very light brake pressure on the pedal.
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ScottG wrote:You'll like the PowerStop pads - mostly.
They have a lot more grip than any stock pads and get even better with a little heat. So if you're in stop and go traffic, they get a little stickier and it takes less pedal effort.
Have a panic stop and you will be surprised - they stop HARD.
The down side is they will eat your rotors. I mean they grind the metal off them so much that they will be done when it's time for new pads.
I also have a RAM 3500 and often tow in the hills. The added stopping force is a fair trade off in rotor life for me - especially when a herd of elk runs out in front of me..
I hope the stock rotors with 50k will last the life of those pads.
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Grit dog
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scootsk wrote:ScottG wrote:You'll like the PowerStop pads - mostly.
They have a lot more grip than any stock pads and get even better with a little heat. So if you're in stop and go traffic, they get a little stickier and it takes less pedal effort.
Have a panic stop and you will be surprised - they stop HARD.
The down side is they will eat your rotors. I mean they grind the metal off them so much that they will be done when it's time for new pads.
I also have a RAM 3500 and often tow in the hills. The added stopping force is a fair trade off in rotor life for me - especially when a herd of elk runs out in front of me..
I hope the stock rotors with 50k will last the life of those pads.
You’re fine unless you’re hard on brakes or don’t know how to drive. 200k on the last Dodge 2500 on original rotors. And they weren’t bad then. 110k on the 2016 with 37s and original rotors that will last a lot longer.
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And unlike the guys who brag about having 150k miles on a set of front brake pads, I actually use my brakes and drive like I’m in a rental most of the time (within reason lol).
I was reminded how nice ceramic pads are yesterday. Kid has been driving this old suv I picked up earlier this year for a commuter bomber, for about a month now to work in seattle 90 ish miles of round trip urban freeways and traffic. Hasn’t been washed in a month.
From 20-30’ away, the front wheels still looked clean. With the old super dust a lot pads, it wouldn’t look like that for more than 2-3 days.
It’s even nicer on the vehicles we have with intricate hard to clean wheels.
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My front rotors were fine until I had a sticking caliper and went metal to metal, GRRRRRRR.
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ScottG
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Grit dog wrote:^Scott, agree with your assessment wholly with exception of the eats rotors part. I know that’s what is/has been commonly said about ceramic pads but in my experience is wholly false. At least with the half dozen or so vehicles, trucks and cars, that I’ve put 100k + with ceramics on anywhere from 0-100k mile rotors. My experience is with OE ceramic pads, EBC red stuff and super green stuff (whatever they’re called) and a few sets of Z36 power stops. All on original OE rotors.
Even if they did, like you, I’d take the trade off 90% for getting rid of brake dust and 10% for marginally better stopping power.
I was only speaking to the use of Power Stop pads in particular, of which I have personal experience with.
Not sure about the others.
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
If you have an exhaust brake you should never experience "brake fade".
well that just speaks to the obvious. how can you have brake fade if you don't use your brakes ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes")
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