deltabravo
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TexasNate wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation along the lines of what a baseline is for pickups for something this heavy?
1 ton dually minimum.
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schlep1967
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If you can figure out the pin weight, then that will tell you what you need to see on the door sticker. Most of the newer 3500/350 SRW will easily pull more weight than your trailer. The problem is the amount they can carry. Make sure the Payload is higher than your pin weight, fuel, people, dogs, firewood and anything else you may decide to haul in the truck.
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eHoefler
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If the the Oakmont is what I think it is, very similar to my Mt. Rushmore. My pin weight is right at 4200 pounds,
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TexasNate wrote:Thanks for the input from everyone, it's much appreciated. We
The consensus seems to be that our truck is just not suitable for this heavy of a trailer so I think we're going to try to hire someone to transport it and then look into getting a more capable pickup for the future. Does anyone have a recommendation along the lines of what a baseline is for pickups for something this heavy? Should it be a 1
ton dually and less than 10 years old (or newer)? The last thing I want to do is put ourselves and other people on the road at risk but we travel a lot for work so I need to be able to pull this myself in the future.
Basically, you need to look up the specs on the truck. Tow rating is one issue but the bigger issue is payload.
A 5th wheel typically puts 20-25% of the weight on the pin, so a 16,000lb trailer will have a pin weight on the order of 3200-4000lb. That weight counts against the trucks payload. Add in a couple hundred for the hitch, maybe 350 for the people plus anything stored or bolted onto the truck and it's easy to need a 4500-5000lb payload.
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TexasNate
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I currently on the road and don't have access to my truck but according to my notes it's supposed to be able to pull 14,200 lbs and Payload capacity of 3425. The specs for my model rv say dry weight 13,576, GVWR of 15,500 and tongue weight of 2580. I'm currently looking for someone in the Salem, Oregon area to haul the rv to Montana since it looks like the rv weight is over what my truck can handle. After that I guess I'll be looking for a more capable pickup truck. Thanks again for all the input.
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Cummins12V98
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eHoefler wrote:If the the Oakmont is what I think it is, very similar to my Mt. Rushmore. My pin weight is right at 4200 pounds,
That its an honest answer! 25% is very common for pin weight.
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It is not pulling the thing, it is the stopping the thing.
Sooner, rather than later, there will be that split second situation when you will wish that you had a whole lot more truck. Some car will brake suddenly infront of you. You will go into an exit too fast. 16,000lbs of trailer will want to overtake a way too small truck. It won't be pretty.
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TexasNate wrote:I currently on the road and don't have access to my truck but according to my notes it's supposed to be able to pull 14,200 lbs and Payload capacity of 3425. The specs for my model rv say dry weight 13,576, GVWR of 15,500 and tongue weight of 2580. I'm currently looking for someone in the Salem, Oregon area to haul the rv to Montana since it looks like the rv weight is over what my truck can handle. After that I guess I'll be looking for a more capable pickup truck. Thanks again for all the input.
Your 2004 will not likely have a "Payload Sticker", they didn't really come along until 2006. The only way for figure your "Payload" is go to the scales. Truck weight ready to tow, subtracted from the GVWR from the VIN sticker will give you available payload.
Newer DRW 350/3500's have GVWR of 14,000# and payloads in the 5,000#+/- range.
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Veebyes wrote:It is not pulling the thing, it is the stopping the thing.
Sooner, rather than later, there will be that split second situation when you will wish that you had a whole lot more truck. Some car will brake suddenly infront of you. You will go into an exit too fast. 16,000lbs of trailer will want to overtake a way too small truck. It won't be pretty.
I have never felt this was a issue with heavy trailer. The brakes on trailer are designed to stop trailer. Now trailer brakes fail, stopping will be issue, but unless the GVWR of the TV is at least equal to GCVW, that issue does not go away.
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Veebyes wrote:It is not pulling the thing, it is the stopping the thing.
Sooner, rather than later, there will be that split second situation when you will wish that you had a whole lot more truck. Some car will brake suddenly infront of you. You will go into an exit too fast. 16,000lbs of trailer will want to overtake a way too small truck. It won't be pretty.
I would say it a bit differently. Sure it can tow it, BUT can it HANDLE it in a panic lane change just for one example. The answer is NO.
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