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VQ74

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bobndot wrote:

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rjstractor wrote:

Need a little more information- did the jolts occur just as you stopped, or had you already been stopped for several seconds? Were they hard, gentle or normal stops? Could something heavy be loose in a compartment?


VQ74,
You highlighted this quote but said nothing .
These questions are still unanswered.
Did this happen as your started to move forward from a dead stop ? Was it due to movement ?


This happened when I had stopped completely.

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Grit dog wrote:

Well a quick crawl under it will reveal a major structural issue or broken suspension. However there’s a very low likelihood that it’s something like that if it handles fine on the road and then has a little indeterminate thump while stopped. Period.
OP hasn’t been great about replying or adding to the thread. Repeatability is a big part of diagnosis and so far it appears to have happened only twice, yet hard to believe the rig only stopped twice in the last however many miles.
Another suggestion besides manually downshifting if it’s repeatable at multiple stops. (This can literally be done at low speeds in their subdivision or a desolate road ) is kick it into neutral before coming to a stop and see if the thump goes away.


I had my brother in law go under the motorhome to check on things he did not find anything that looked like it might cause the jolt from rear. I had stopped more than twice and it did only happen twice. On the way home there was no incidents where it jolted from the rear.

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bobndot wrote:

VQ74 wrote:

rjstractor wrote:

Need a little more information- did the jolts occur just as you stopped, or had you already been stopped for several seconds? Were they hard, gentle or normal stops? Could something heavy be loose in a compartment?


VQ74,
You highlighted this quote but said nothing .
These questions are still unanswered.
Did this happen as your started to move forward from a dead stop ? Was it due to movement ?


I had been stopped for a few seconds when I felt the jolt. The first jolt was very light the second was a bit harder. Checked compartments nothing loose. I do have a weber bbq table that may have moved forward and hit the spare tire, not sure this would cause a jolt from the rear as the table is not very heavy.

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try this. Start vehicle. put in neutral. release foot brake. Apply foot brake and put transmission in drive. Is this what you felt?

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klutchdust wrote:

try this. Start vehicle. put in neutral. release foot brake. Apply foot brake and put transmission in drive. Is this what you felt?



Ok Will try. If I do feel a jolt from the rear what does that mean. Transmission problem.

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Sounds like the rear end is wrapping up. This happens when too much torque is applied. When brakes are release, the rear suspension twist is released. Common area is center bolt in spring, shackles, torsion bars and spring perches.


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enblethen wrote:

Sounds like the rear end is wrapping up. This happens when too much torque is applied. When brakes are release, the rear suspension twist is released. Common area is center bolt in spring, shackles, torsion bars and spring perches.


Just a question ;
Could this jolt happen if the 12v power was disconnected , like removing the battery terminals to clean them ?
The ECU memory and throttle valve might be out of sync ? Could that be the cause of things wrapping up. If so, it could be a temporary condition until driving over time self corrects it.

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enblethen wrote:

Sounds like the rear end is wrapping up. This happens when too much torque is applied. When brakes are release, the rear suspension twist is released. Common area is center bolt in spring, shackles, torsion bars and spring perches.


Just a question ;
Could this jolt happen if the 12v power was disconnected , like removing the battery terminals to clean them ?
The ECU memory and throttle valve might be out of sync ? Could that be the cause of things wrapping up. If so, it could be a temporary condition until driving over time self corrects it.


No, you’re talking about things that aren’t even remotely related other than being attached to the same vehicle.
It is possible by some very small % that there could be a little axle wrap. However if there were components that were so worn or broken as described, there would be other symptoms assuredly and a little clunk at a stoplight would be far secondary to the primary symptoms. Of which the OP said there are no other suspension symptoms, noises etc while underway.


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12-volt DC would not have any effect Wrap up is a mechanical function. 12-volt out of ECU and transmission control should reset as soon as power is restored, engine restarted, and transmission is operated.

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VQ74 wrote:

klutchdust wrote:

try this. Start vehicle. put in neutral. release foot brake. Apply foot brake and put transmission in drive. Is this what you felt?



Ok Will try. If I do feel a jolt from the rear what does that mean. Transmission problem.


want to figure out what you consider a jolt. From neutral and putting a vehicle into gear it will move forward. Is that what you are feeling or something more intense.

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