mkirsch
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Cummins12V98 wrote:IMHO the pictured "TRAIN" is just plain STUPID!!!
Why? You're an RVer. You know the First Law of RVing: "NO COMPROMISES!" That guy is not going to compromise on which toy to bring along when camping. He wants them ALL. He's going to have them ALL.
Remember the Second Law of RVing: "It's not stupid/illegal if it works!"
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Bionic Man
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Not mine. I do tow double but with a boat.
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Bionic Man wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:IMHO the pictured "TRAIN" is just plain STUPID!!!
I've spoken with plenty of people that feel the same way about towing two trailers.
Hey Bionic, not sure if that triple tow rig is yours? While I could see towing that setup, shorter distances, at lower speeds, I would consider it unsafe for towing at speed, especially in traffic. It seems the hitch wt on FW rear would be excessive too, since mine/most factory FW receivers say 300 lbs max weight.
I've towed doubles since 95, and never felt unsafe. My second trailer, carrying 2-3 motorcycles, was never more than 1,800 lbs, and tracked very nicely behind several FWs.
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Cummins12V98
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Bionic Man wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:IMHO the pictured "TRAIN" is just plain STUPID!!!
I've spoken with plenty of people that feel the same way about towing two trailers.
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Bionic Man wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:IMHO the pictured "TRAIN" is just plain STUPID!!!
I've spoken with plenty of people that feel the same way about towing two trailers.
And in camp grounds, I watched many that don't have skill level to tow 1.
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Bionic Man
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Cummins12V98 wrote:IMHO the pictured "TRAIN" is just plain STUPID!!!
I've spoken with plenty of people that feel the same way about towing two trailers.
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IMHO the pictured "TRAIN" is just plain STUPID!!!
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Wadcutter
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mkirsch wrote:
Oh, and local law enforcement knew EXACTLY what I was talking about when I asked about "triple towing." "Oh you mean a truck and two trailers? Not legal here in NY."
I know the LE knows the correct terminology. Many LEOs are trained extensively in the FMCSA. When we complete an inspection report a copy goes to the feds. Every state has to use the same terminology so that when all those inspection reports are collected by the feds they all are the same meaning. On that inspection form is a description of the unit being inspected.
While the RVer isn't subject to FMCSA the terms from the FMCSA are what carries over into other statutes. The reason is simple. So everyone is talking on the same page.
I have no doubt those LEOs you called also know when they get a question from the public they know the person doesn't know what they're talking about. Calling 2 trailers a triple tow explains that quite well. That comes from years of answering questions from the unknowning public.
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mkirsch
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Thanks, but I don't need it explained. I get it. It makes me cringe because everyone should have learned to count to TWO when they were <5 years old. This only proves that our educational system has been failing us for at least three-quarters of a century.
Irks me to no end that when you ask someone what "double towing" is and they say "A truck and two trailers." Why? "Trailer 1 and trailer 2." Then ask them what "triple towing" is and they say "A truck and two trailers." Why? "Because there's three, truck, trailer 1 and trailer 2."
Oh, and local law enforcement knew EXACTLY what I was talking about when I asked about "triple towing." "Oh you mean a truck and two trailers? Not legal here in NY."
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Wadcutter
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mkirsch wrote:It's probably too late to change the vernacular. Literally every article on this subject calls it "triple towing."
The vernacular was changed by those who didn't know what they were talking about.
The legal definition, as used by the feds and states, of triple towing is as in the picture posted by Bionic Man.
It's really not that difficult to understand if one would just think about what they're saying. Look at the phrase "triple towing". Now think about it. "towing". It doesn't say "number of vehicles in combination. It's "towing".
Now what is "triple"? 3. Put those 2 words together. What's it say. Towing 3. Not "how many in combination". Towing 3.
Now why does it matter? You say you can't find the law. That does not mean it's not in the laws. It just means you don't know where to find it. So if you call your state LE and ask "Can I tow triple?" they're going to assume, erroneously, that you know what you're talking about and you are describing "towing 3" as in the picture posted by Bionic Man. And they're going to give you the law for the combination in the picture. Is that the answer you're looking for?
That's about as simple explanation as I can give for those who don't understand definitions and the law.
If you want to know what's legal then you need to learn the proper terminology. Do not rely on some internet search written by those who also do not understand defniitions and the law.
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