Oreonut
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Dealer says there isn't anything they can do. Have a call into Forest River.
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treyster
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To make your trip and get it titled, you need to get that trailer down to 9900 lbs even if you have to clean it out, take out the propane and battery, etc. Your gear would then be in your tow rig and that cannot exceed the GCVWR or your tow rig GVWR. Get to the scales and figure it out.
If the trailer is stickered wrong, you need to let the dealer know ASAP and can fight it out after your trip.
I'm guessing the scales were screwed up.
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dieseltruckdriver
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Take your trailer to a CAT scale first. They are certified weights so you will know for sure what your weight is. If you really are over that much, strip the trailer and then hit the CAT scale again. When you are good there head to the DMV with the CAT scale ticket in hand. Then you can get it licensed for your trip.
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Thanks! Heading to a CAT scale on Saturday. Everyone I talk to from the dealer to the DMV say they have never seen this happen before. IDK .... weird for sure.
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nickthehunter
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A 31 foot, 3 slide trailer that weighs 8500 pounds - that doesn’t sound right to me. The 10,000 pound number sounds closer to me.
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Oreonut wrote:dieseltruckdriver wrote:Take your trailer to a CAT scale first. They are certified weights so you will know for sure what your weight is. If you really are over that much, strip the trailer and then hit the CAT scale again. When you are good there head to the DMV with the CAT scale ticket in hand. Then you can get it licensed for your trip.
Thanks! Heading to a CAT scale on Saturday. Everyone I talk to from the dealer to the DMV say they have never seen this happen before. IDK .... weird for sure.
Please let us know the outcome with your problem.
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MitchF150 wrote:I am not sure what the "M" in your "GVWR" means
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treyster wrote:I'd empty it and take it to another set of scales to verify dry sticker. What's your tow rig gross combined weight rating? The problem is not with the tow vehicle capacity. The problem is that the trailer weighs significantly more than the trailer's GVWR, so the state won't issue tags for the trailer.
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Oreonut wrote:Here are the stated manufacturer weights - 2023 Forest River RV Wildwood 31KQBTS
Hitch 905
Cargo 1292
Dry Weight 8573
MGVWR on sticker 9905
Weight on DMV scale - 10,851
There is no way our beach chairs, mat, sewer stuff, hoses, and random household supplies put it at that weight.
We are thinking bad scale or Forest River stated weight is just wrong. Just have no idea how to fix it. The DMV guy is calling the state headquarters today but says there is nothing he can do. I'll call the dealer today.
Frustration is we are supposed to leave on 6/1 for two weeks so have little time to get this worked out and really don't know how that even gets done.
Thanks!
Hi,
Trying to help here, I looked up your camper and others in the same Wildwood group. Here:https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/wildwood
Your 31KQBTS is 36'7" lg, triple slide, and the book-listed dry cargo rating is 1,292#. Several other 36 to 37 ft long campers are also listed, but they all list more cargo capacity. And a few in the 11K GVWR range.
A question: Did you get the smooth-sided fiberglass siding option? That option on a camper that long can be 300 to 400# more weight.
I thought there was a semi-new law that each camper is supposed to have a weight sticker inside the camper stating that the camper weighs less cargo, the LP gas adds so many pounds, freshwater filling the tank adds, and what remaining cargo capacity is left, as that exact camper left the factory with all options. There should also be a cargo capacity sticker outside up front on the left where the tire size and pressures should be. Does the inside weight sticker cargo capacity align with the outside tire cargo sticker capacity?
Using the brochure weights may not be accurate as it does not include added options. But, the inside weight sticker should consist of all the options from when it left the factory.
I will say this, only having a dry 1,292# cargo capacity on a 36' 7" lg bunkhouse camper is not a lot. Filling 2, 30# LP tanks with gas and group 24 battery uses up a little over 100# before you even put any cargo in the camper.
I wonder if they optioned it up by the dealer order for their stock, and the options ate into your low cargo capacity?
Please post back how this comes out and your trip to the scales.
Hope this helps,
John
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If the weight is accurate you need to transfer 900 lbs of gear to the tow rig to make the trip next week. Fortunately a 2500HD should have over 3000 lbs payload so at least on paper it's doable.
If weight is accurate, you need to put the dealer on notice immediately they sold you a trailer that can't be titled. But if you strip it to make your trip, you lose your argument it can't be titled. If you get it titled then add stuff back in, you risk getting stuck at a weigh station somewhere. There's a lot to consider if weight is accurate, easiest out may be to have dealer loan you a trailer for this trip then sort it out afterwards.
Really hope the DE scale is inaccurate.
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JBarca wrote:
A question: Did you get the smooth-sided fiberglass siding option? That option on a camper that long can be 300 to 400# more weight.
Yes, it is the smooth fiberglass. The only larger thing I know that was added after manufacture was a rear air conditioner. We added 3 TV's, a few decorations, bedding, small dog crates, beach chairs & umbrella, lightweight mat, hoses, sewer hoses, blocks, laundry rack, a case of water and that is about it. The electric cord which feels like it weighs 30lbs was not even in it at the time of weighing.
Wishing we went through inspection earlier for sure before adding anything at all. Didn't see this coming and it was in the shop getting all the tv cables reran when the temp tags expired. All the ends of them were crimped too short and no connections for any of the tvs worked.
This is the exact one - 2023 Forest River RV Wildwood 31KQBTS
I'll have to check the stickers when I go over there. I know the one plate says 9905 which matches the Certificate of Origin.
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