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rjstractor wrote:Power and weight not an issue, as the car weighs close to 4000 lbs. For me the real deal breaker is a travel cycle of 2 hours driving and 1 hour stopped to charge, and that's with removing the A/C from the roof of the Airstream to improve aerodynamics. 200 miles on a charge towing would be livable, but many, many towing videos I've watched show that reality is more like 100 miles per charge.
Charging at a V3 supercharger would be typically 20 to 30 minutes. At least that’s our experience. And yep, when towing we charge every couple hours…or sooner if that’s where the supercharger is. Kinda depends on supercharger spacing. Not a big issue for us as we just build lunch breaks or chihuahua walk breaks around it.
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Lantley
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In the same way 26 gallon fuel tanks are a deal breaker when towing. Stopping every 2 hours to charge would also be a deal breaker.
Sure I could deal with it for a one time trip, but being limited to 2 hour travel intervals would not be practical for me.
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Love the timeliness of these silly posts.
For the “rest of the world” that doesn’t take a 30min break every 2 hours while driving, towing with a EV is horribly unjustifiable…..
Taking off on a road trip tomorrow, unfortunately. If it added 6 hours to the trip to charge my truck, I’d lose my freakin mind!
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Lantley wrote:In the same way 26 gallon fuel tanks are a deal breaker when towing. Stopping every 2 hours to charge would also be a deal breaker.
Sure I could deal with it for a one time trip, but being limited to 2 hour travel intervals would not be practical for me.
26 gal tank would be good for 4-5 hr of driving for us pulling a 7500lb trailer.
Also wonder how the drivetrain and suspension would hold up with a heavier trailer. It's not uncommon for folks to try and max out a crossover SUV (aka: Unibody station wagon). They have plenty of HP but the rest of the drivetrain and suspension are overloaded.
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Lantley wrote:In the same way 26 gallon fuel tanks are a deal breaker when towing. Stopping every 2 hours to charge would also be a deal breaker.
Sure I could deal with it for a one time trip, but being limited to 2 hour travel intervals would not be practical for me.
Lets do a little math for a real comparison.
We learn from this site that the biggest battery you can get in a Tesla 3 is 85kwh.
We also learn from this site that 33.7kwh is equivalent to 1 gallon of gasoline.
So, with the biggest battery you can get in a M3 you have the equivalent of 3 gallons of gas on board.
Electric motors are "around" twice as efficient as a gasoline engine so now we have around 6 gallons of gas on board in our "electric car."
Now, a low profile car is going to get better mileage and so is the Airstream over a truck and a box.
So lets be generous and say our electric car has a 8 gallon tank. How far do you think you will get on an 8 gallon tank towing that trailer?
They are called the "LAWS" of physic's for a reason. They are not suggestions. They are laws.
BTW I would love to see that guy do 600 mile in a day with that setup.
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OK if a gallon is 34 kWh and a gas vehicle goes 10 mpg and the EV goes 30 to 50 miles on that same energy there must be a bit more math involved or some laws of physics are broken.
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time2roll wrote:OK if a gallon is 34 kWh and a gas vehicle goes 10 mpg and the EV goes 30 to 50 miles on that same energy there must be a bit more math involved or some laws of physics are broken.
T&P wrote:Electric motors are "around" twice as efficient as a gasoline engine
(I stated that above)
The math work and I have proved it several times on this very forum.
Oh BTW. Electric mileage drifts around much like mileage on gas diesel or coal or natural gas. How fast you go, how much weight you are towing, how tall the load is and about 20 other things make a big difference.
BTW, btw, the powers that be said they will not make a new battery for my plug in electric car, and they won't fix it even though it is under warranty. I will learn how much money I will receive this week.
Fun times for sure.
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:
BTW, btw, the powers that be said they will not make a new battery for my plug in electric car, and they won't fix it even though it is under warranty. I will learn how much money I will receive this week.
Fun times for sure.
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What vehicle is that?
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:I will learn how much money I will receive this week. Interesting that a warranty claim could total the vehicle and that a buy out would be an option.
BTW Model Y is the best selling vehicle in the world in the 1st quarter 2023:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-mod........wide-in-the-first-quarter-154909234.html
At least Tesla with all its shortcomings will replace a defective battery under warranty. GM seems to be stepping up also on battery replacements if needed.
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Best selling car, not vehicle.
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