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Cummins12V98

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Posted: 05/17/23 08:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am fairly sure the warranty is 6 years pro rated for non road hazard issues.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

ScottG wrote:

Mine are 5 y/o this year as well and I have no intention of replacing them just because of age. I will have to replace them next year because they'll be worn out - at <15K. They'll be replaced with something else that starts out with more tread.


Makes no sense! 15k??? I have a set on my Boat Trailer and they have at least 20-25k and dated 2017. I will run them this Summer and see how the tread looks.

You must have brakes set too tight or some other issue.

Something to consider you have 5 years with no issues on trailer tires that says a lot.


Brakes are self adjusting but I check them each spring anyway - they work perfectly. I do all my own mechanicals and know what I'm doing. I use my exhaust brake so they get a break that way. Tread wear is even but the rears wear slightly faster. Probably a factor of tight turns but nothing different than any of the other trailers I've owned.
I'd like to get alignment checked but there just isn't anyone in the area.
Biggest problem I see is that they don't start with as much rubber as other brands. Most have 50% to 100% more tread.

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I am of the same mind as Mark Twain, to me tires are the most important items on a trailer (and tow vehicle for that matter).

The last set of tires (also Goodyear Endurance) I bought 4 years ago, arrived at the dealer with two year old production date. I was not happy, but the dealer said "take em or leave em". Unfortunately, I was about to leave on a trip so had no choice.

So, they are now 6 years old (even though only 4 years of use) and I am shopping for replacements (at $1000 CDN, for 4 trailer tires...jeeez). Under different circumstance (short trips, easy speeds), I would likely let them go another year or two, but our trips are always long distance (BC, Canada - Denver, Co) on Interstate Highways at 64-65 mph and I won't take a chance getting a high-speed blowout in the middle of nowhere.

As others have suggested, it probably should depend on your anticipated use (short vs long trips etc) and how well you have cared for them, among other things.

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We have gone through a lot of tires in the last 20 years and I switch the rubber on the big (13,000 pounds GVW) trailer between year 5 and year 6. I'm not risking a failure in the middle of nowhere and I'm too old to be changing heavy tires by myself. We did get GoodSam to come all the way to Tombstone AZ from Tucson one time, but three hours in the sun in July waiting for the tire truck made a believer.

I do downrate my take-offs. Either for my son's landscape service trailers or on the local internet with the clear warning that they are cheap but should be considered for local use only!

Good tires are like a good rain suit. Basic to RVing.

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marpel wrote:

I am of the same mind as Mark Twain, to me tires are the most important items on a trailer (and tow vehicle for that matter).

The last set of tires (also Goodyear Endurance) I bought 4 years ago, arrived at the dealer with two year old production date. I was not happy, but the dealer said "take em or leave em". Unfortunately, I was about to leave on a trip so had no choice.

So, they are now 6 years old (even though only 4 years of use) and I am shopping for replacements (at $1000 CDN, for 4 trailer tires...jeeez). Under different circumstance (short trips, easy speeds), I would likely let them go another year or two, but our trips are always long distance (BC, Canada - Denver, Co) on Interstate Highways at 64-65 mph and I won't take a chance getting a high-speed blowout in the middle of nowhere.

As others have suggested, it probably should depend on your anticipated use (short vs long trips etc) and how well you have cared for them, among other things.



Marpel - It is good to know that other people share my opinions of RV tires. I had the same problem with tires not being more than 1 yr. old. I called my tire dealer 6 months before I planned on buying new tires and told them I would not accept any tire more than 1 yr. old. Les Schwab in Calif. They had to search for them but finally got them.[emoticon]

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marpel wrote:

(at $1000 CDN, for 4 trailer tires...jeeez).


Where are you finding them that cheap? They are just under 400 a tire out here.


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MarkTwain wrote:

marpel wrote:

I am of the same mind as Mark Twain, to me tires are the most important items on a trailer (and tow vehicle for that matter).

The last set of tires (also Goodyear Endurance) I bought 4 years ago, arrived at the dealer with two year old production date. I was not happy, but the dealer said "take em or leave em". Unfortunately, I was about to leave on a trip so had no choice.

So, they are now 6 years old (even though only 4 years of use) and I am shopping for replacements (at $1000 CDN, for 4 trailer tires...jeeez). Under different circumstance (short trips, easy speeds), I would likely let them go another year or two, but our trips are always long distance (BC, Canada - Denver, Co) on Interstate Highways at 64-65 mph and I won't take a chance getting a high-speed blowout in the middle of nowhere.

As others have suggested, it probably should depend on your anticipated use (short vs long trips etc) and how well you have cared for them, among other things.



Marpel - It is good to know that other people share my opinions of RV tires. I had the same problem with tires not being more than 1 yr. old. I called my tire dealer 6 months before I planned on buying new tires and told them I would not accept any tire more than 1 yr. old. Les Schwab in Calif. They had to search for them but finally got them.[emoticon]


I found a deal on new Provider tires, mounted on quality higher rated Vesper wheels online at Gallagher tire in PA. I chatted with sales guy online, asking about date code, and online wheel picture being accurate.

He was ready to go for lunch, and he said "if you give your email, I'll check date code, send pic of code, and pic of exact tire/wheel combo, from warehouse".

About 2 hours later, I received perfect pics in my email. He added that all 4 would be same code, which indicated 10 months old. I emailed my info back, and in a few days UPS delivered them. All was as described, including free shipping.

My experience was great, an honest sales person, a tire dealer I'd recommend.

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Jerry

* This post was edited 05/18/23 03:49pm by MFL *





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I'll give you my advice from my bar stool (is forum advice really any different?)

So, since you'll take advice from a gin mill patron, do you live in Arizona or similar where the tires are baked in the sun? Northern climates where you store and use your trailer? Makes a difference.

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Thanks for the responses. Some answers to your questions...

The trailer lives in SoCal. Weather is very mild. Sun exposure is minimal as trailer is stored parallel to my house with one side within about 4ft of the north side of the house and the other side up against a cement block wall. The awning up high gets some sun exposure but not much down where the tires are. Awning was replaced earlier this year with a model that has the metal shroud.

I only put about 2k miles per year on the trailer. Usage is on the low side. I always inflate the tires to 80lbs before traveling and it has never taken more than a couple of lbs to "top them off".

No visible cracks or bulges.

All that said, I have decided to replace them now instead of waiting another year. It hurts to pay $1200 for the same set of tires I bought for $800 5 years ago. Welcome to inflation. Although even new tires can fail, I won't worry as much about that happening with new shoes.


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StirCrazy,

Not sure if it makes a difference, but my tires are 205/75/14.

Anyway, I have just finished getting quotes from 4 or 5 tire dealers here in the greater Vancouver area, and the most expensive was approximately $1200 (Fountain Tire), while the others were a couple bucks either side of $1000 (OkTire, KalTire etc), with the cheapest, I just ordered from, was a local small auto shop which I have been a customer of for the last ten or so years, at just over $900. All these prices include tax, all fees, and included installation.

Maybe the tire size is the difference, but I'm surprised they are that expensive up there.

Marv

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