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neu

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Posted: 05/07/23 06:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here's what is written in my car user manual. You cannot install a weight distribution hitch. At the same time, the hitch itself only specifies towing specifications with weight distribution. Nonsense.
I gonna visit the dealership tomorrow to clarify this

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Posted: 05/07/23 09:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Could you please send me the link for what you mean?

Search "Curt 25210". Have your welder cut off the current ball mount leaving the A frame plate for your jack mount. Then, have him weld the top of the new A frame coupler plate to the bottom of the frame. This should be plenty strong for a trailer in your weight class.

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^Not exactly how they were designed but yes with a competent weld it would be fine.
It will also make the trailer useless for anyone with a real tow vehicle, in the future, when you sell it.
Since this whole escapade has gone unanswered whether you’ve towed it, ok with towing it, even know how it tows, if you go the mod hitch route you have a 50/50 chance of shooting your self in the foot by continuing to try to jam this round peg into a square hole. Figuratively and literally.
Next bit may not be well received but in general you’ve exhibited that you’re not the kind of “mod it and make it work” type of person. Nevermind the whole issue of actually towing it which has gone unaddressed.
Lots of campers and lots of cars and trucks for sale.
Maybe consider the option of finding the right camper for your car or getting something that will tow the existing camper without any fanfare, modifications, counting cans of beans and logging where you place them for weight purposes and all the other rabbit hole stuff that has been mentioned the last half dozen pages.
And if you change vehicles you’ll probably thank (somebody) once that Audi starts being an Audi and getting into your wallet. Which will happen quicker if you’re doing any real deal high mile towing with it.


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Plus the resale on older higher mile Audis is horrible (reference my previous post) combined with the significant premium you pay for EVERYTHING maint and repair related.

Unless you’re hung up on the bougie image of driving an Audi (if so, at least get a car and something fast, because your Q5 is just an over priced midsize suv with lackluster performance), take this opportunity to upgrade on all fronts except the downtown metro bistro crowd image. Which by now would put you in a EV to get any street cred with the bistro/farmers market/wine bar crowd anyways…

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And once you establish that you can’t use a wdh and don’t have auto level/air ride, you’re probably not going to like how 450lbs on the hitch and a trunk full of “stuff” handles. And neither will your car.
And if I’m wrong you’ll never know until you spend a bunch more money and do some irreversible major mods to the car or trailer.
Combined again with your obvious anxiety over towing it in the first place.
And They don’t make simple suspension enhancements for your car, like a cheap set of airbags or helper springs ( no wdh allowed, remember). Closest thing I found was an airlift kit for Q5 for $3k (so $4k for you plus a couple grand mechanic bill).
You’re at the dealbreaker stage here. Period.

Before you take offense to any of this, I understand vehicles, trailers, mechanics, towing etc. Been doing it for 35 years as everything from a laborer to mechanic/fabricator to engineer to being responsible for 100s of people who tow “stuff.” I could plasma the old hitch off and weld a new one on and have the first coat of paint dry by this afternoon, but if I was in your shoes I’d not even consider it and step back and analyze which thing I wanted to keep and which one I wanted to switch out to make a compatible combination.

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These guys catch a lot of flack on the net, but it seems they have made conversions for quite a few different cars to tow trailers:

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Grit dog wrote:

And once you establish that you can’t use a wdh and don’t have auto level/air ride, you’re probably not going to like how 450lbs on the hitch and a trunk full of “stuff” handles. And neither will your car.
And if I’m wrong you’ll never know until you spend a bunch more money and do some irreversible major mods to the car or trailer.
Combined again with your obvious anxiety over towing it in the first place.
And They don’t make simple suspension enhancements for your car, like a cheap set of airbags or helper springs ( no wdh allowed, remember). Closest thing I found was an airlift kit for Q5 for $3k (so $4k for you plus a couple grand mechanic bill).
You’re at the dealbreaker stage here. Period.

Before you take offense to any of this, I understand vehicles, trailers, mechanics, towing etc. Been doing it for 35 years as everything from a laborer to mechanic/fabricator to engineer to being responsible for 100s of people who tow “stuff.” I could plasma the old hitch off and weld a new one on and have the first coat of paint dry by this afternoon, but if I was in your shoes I’d not even consider it and step back and analyze which thing I wanted to keep and which one I wanted to switch out to make a compatible combination.


Hello, thank you for sharing your experience, I agree

I've already decided that I'm not going to make any upgrades to my car and trailer. I'll get confirmation from the dealer that the car can be used without a WDH and then most likely use a hitch without a lift. I'll measure the clearance, trailer angle, and tongue weight today and base my decision on that data. I'll definitely post it here. If it doesn't work out, I'll reluctantly sell the trailer.

Unfortunately, I can't find any other trailers with a low tongue height that would fit my car. Only very expensive, rare models, but for that price, I could buy another Audi as an addition.

* This post was edited 05/09/23 06:37am by neu *

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K_and_I wrote:

These guys catch a lot of flack on the net, but it seems they have made conversions for quite a few different cars to tow trailers:

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I've heard about them as well. Thank you!

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