nickthehunter
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Reisender wrote:Bobbo wrote:Reisender wrote:ronharmless wrote:The electrical infrastructure serving my house was installed in our backyard in 1953. The main backbone infrastructure has not been upgraded since being installed. Without a very expansive outside financial input, there won’t be a infrastructure update. My backyard is only 1 of a 150 million backyards. Power plants, substations, and transformers are one gargantuan cost, the 150 million last mile(s) are even bigger. No money no bueno.
Meh. BC hydro talks about this on their website. Any upgrades get done in the normal course of regular maintenance. They see no issues going forward as it is a 40 year transition that already started 10 years ago. I’m sure most modern nations won’t have a problem with the transition.
I love it! when someone points out the weakness in his area, the response is "Meh." Claims the "upgrades get done in the normal course of regular maintenance." So, just dismissing the problem is now the solution.
Dismissing the problem? No, as stated, it is being addressed in the normal course of maintenance and upgrades. That is the solution. There is lots of info on their website. Go check it out. Not an issue. You keep mentioning BC Hydro; about 99% of the population don't live in BC Hydro territory. What do we do if we don't live in BC? Did BC Hydro mention where the money will come from?
Meh - not an issue
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Well despite all the bantering none of us are in any position of control or decision making where the auto industry heads or how the electrical grids fare.
So either evs will continue to pick up more market share and everyone will be able to charge them with an appropriate level of cost and convenience (whatever that may be at whatever point in the future) or the opposite will happen or the EV market will stagnate.
Don’t matter one bit IMO. The market and industry will self regulate.
The other certainty is, regardless of one’s preference or opinion, all of us who pay taxes will continue to fund wherever the market heads.
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nickthehunter wrote:Reisender wrote:Bobbo wrote:Reisender wrote:ronharmless wrote:The electrical infrastructure serving my house was installed in our backyard in 1953. The main backbone infrastructure has not been upgraded since being installed. Without a very expansive outside financial input, there won’t be a infrastructure update. My backyard is only 1 of a 150 million backyards. Power plants, substations, and transformers are one gargantuan cost, the 150 million last mile(s) are even bigger. No money no bueno.
Meh. BC hydro talks about this on their website. Any upgrades get done in the normal course of regular maintenance. They see no issues going forward as it is a 40 year transition that already started 10 years ago. I’m sure most modern nations won’t have a problem with the transition.
I love it! when someone points out the weakness in his area, the response is "Meh." Claims the "upgrades get done in the normal course of regular maintenance." So, just dismissing the problem is now the solution.
Dismissing the problem? No, as stated, it is being addressed in the normal course of maintenance and upgrades. That is the solution. There is lots of info on their website. Go check it out. Not an issue. You keep mentioning BC Hydro; about 99% of the population don't live in BC Hydro territory. What do we do if we don't live in BC? Did BC Hydro mention where the money will come from?
Meh - not an issue
BC hydro is our utility. I’m sure they conduct operations similar to other utilities. I suspect most utilities will not have a problem with regular maintenance and upgrades unless they are poorly run. It’s just part of doing business.
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They sent a letter (western states interti) to Pateco my defunct company regarding bid interest for upgrades to 4x capacity) including direct current transmission. Of course I declined and asked to be removed from the list of service engineering vendors.
The line(s) connect Canada through C.O.W. to an upgraded 2 GW geothermal generator and PV field in Mexicali Baja California Mexico.
If you're a Californiano prepare yourself for a major energy surtax. The figure of eighty to two hundred billion dollars is being tossed around for total infrastructure financing. The proposed routing is through California's Central Valley primarily because of seismic vulnerability.
It isn't just a matter of EV demand but total and complete elimination of energy consumption elimination of other than electricity. Including structures and manufacturing.
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To answer the original question, we are probably okay in most parts of the US for the next 5 years or so.
You will likely see "tiered" electric rates, meaning to be cost effective you will have to charge after midnight and before 8 AM.
Expect costs at "super chargers" to jump in the next couple of years in big cities.
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rjstractor
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I think an issue that will come to head as time goes on in my area is the shift away from natural gas for heating and cooking. That's an almost incomprehensible amount of heat energy that will need to come from other sources. There is also a shift away from hydro due to the need to restore fish habitat, and folks are still afraid of nuclear energy. What's left? Of course there is wind and solar, but both those sources are lacking during the cold, dark winter months here in the north. Even during rare instances when the sun shines, the maximum solar energy per square meter in the winter is a small fraction of the available energy in the summer. The wind farms of Eastern Washington sit idle for days at a time during the winter inversions. And this happens during the time of year that our need for energy is at its highest. In warmer climates, solar is a good option because the time of highest demand coincides with highest output. In the north, it's completely opposite.
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cptqueeg
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Reisender wrote:
BC hydro is our utility. I’m sure they conduct operations similar to other utilities. I suspect most utilities will not have a problem with regular maintenance and upgrades unless they are poorly run. It’s just part of doing business.
Unfortunately many US utilities are run as for-profit enterprises w the consent of the regulators so expensive maintenance and upgrades are deferred as long as possible. Unfortunately we'll be behind the 8 ball for a while.
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cptqueeg wrote:Reisender wrote:
BC hydro is our utility. I’m sure they conduct operations similar to other utilities. I suspect most utilities will not have a problem with regular maintenance and upgrades unless they are poorly run. It’s just part of doing business.
Unfortunately many US utilities are run as for-profit enterprises w the consent of the regulators so expensive maintenance and upgrades are deferred as long as possible. Unfortunately we'll be behind the 8 ball for a while.
Thanks for the info.
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NamMedevac 70
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No and No.
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With finite resources to make batteries, continued reliance on a challenged electrical grid, continued reliance on foreign nations, caustic by-products of production, ecological impact of mining, humanitarian issues, and all the other myriad of problems that EV's continue to contribute, I am still trying to figure out exactly what problem EV's are solving.
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