pianotuna
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map40 wrote:wnjj wrote:pianotuna wrote:map40,
Which electric car will go 1500 miles on a single charge?
I took that to mean he’s driven 1500 miles and not had to use a public charger (i.e. round trips from home).
No, 1500 miles with no charging. I have never charged in a public charger. I have an EV that was designed propperly, with an on-board generator. 99% I use battery. 1% of the time I do a long trip I use the generator
In other words you made your BEV into a hybrid.
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map40
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pianotuna wrote:map40 wrote:wnjj wrote:pianotuna wrote:map40,
Which electric car will go 1500 miles on a single charge?
I took that to mean he’s driven 1500 miles and not had to use a public charger (i.e. round trips from home).
No, 1500 miles with no charging. I have never charged in a public charger. I have an EV that was designed propperly, with an on-board generator. 99% I use battery. 1% of the time I do a long trip I use the generator
In other words you made your BEV into a hybrid.
Without the complicated mechanics and the short range of a plug in hybrid (not a hybrid). Might sound similar, but it is a world of difference.
Always remember, an ICE is 30% efficient on converting fuel into motion. Parasitic loads, brakes converting kinetic energy into heat, they are all waste. An EV is 95% efficient converting power into motion.
As I said, they are a great alternative for the right use, but they won't replace all ICEs uses. And Trucks are the most difficult use for EV applications.
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To give you real numbers, my son drives 40 miles each way to work every day. Heave traffic one part and highway. In his old car, $300 in gas per month in a good month. In his I3, $31 in electricity, $0 in gas (never had to use it). Of course, his case is a very faverable, but as I said, when it makes sense and is cheaper...
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map40 wrote:pianotuna wrote:map40 wrote:wnjj wrote:pianotuna wrote:map40,
Which electric car will go 1500 miles on a single charge?
I took that to mean he’s driven 1500 miles and not had to use a public charger (i.e. round trips from home).
No, 1500 miles with no charging. I have never charged in a public charger. I have an EV that was designed propperly, with an on-board generator. 99% I use battery. 1% of the time I do a long trip I use the generator
In other words you made your BEV into a hybrid.
Without the complicated mechanics and the short range of a plug in hybrid (not a hybrid). Might sound similar, but it is a world of difference.
Always remember, an ICE is 30% efficient on converting fuel into motion. Parasitic loads, brakes converting kinetic energy into heat, they are all waste. An EV is 95% efficient converting power into motion.
As I said, they are a great alternative for the right use, but they won't replace all ICEs uses. And Trucks are the most difficult use for EV applications.
But to circle back around to your claim, you did not go 1500 miles without a charge.
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That's OK, I've read that the brand new Pepsi Tesla Semi was spotting behind a Tow Rig!
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map40
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way2roll wrote:map40 wrote:pianotuna wrote:map40 wrote:wnjj wrote:pianotuna wrote:map40,
Which electric car will go 1500 miles on a single charge?
I took that to mean he’s driven 1500 miles and not had to use a public charger (i.e. round trips from home).
No, 1500 miles with no charging. I have never charged in a public charger. I have an EV that was designed propperly, with an on-board generator. 99% I use battery. 1% of the time I do a long trip I use the generator
In other words you made your BEV into a hybrid.
Without the complicated mechanics and the short range of a plug in hybrid (not a hybrid). Might sound similar, but it is a world of difference.
Always remember, an ICE is 30% efficient on converting fuel into motion. Parasitic loads, brakes converting kinetic energy into heat, they are all waste. An EV is 95% efficient converting power into motion.
As I said, they are a great alternative for the right use, but they won't replace all ICEs uses. And Trucks are the most difficult use for EV applications.
But to circle back around to your claim, you did not go 1500 miles without a charge.
As far as I care, I did. What is the biggest problem with EVs? Dealing with charging, finding the chargers and waiting 1 hour. I did not have to do that once. I did it by having an APU, but that is the compromise that makes it worth while. I ran the APU 5 times last year. That saved me from EVER HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT CHARGING, NOT ONCEDURING THE WHOLE YEAR. However you look at it, it eliminated the only problem I had with having an EV. Ask any EV owner, that is the biggest problem.
Forget politics, preconceptions and ideologies. If I offer you a car that is more efficient, that runs on fuel at least 5 times cheaper, that you can refuel at home and that you can drive it as far as you want, wouldn't that be a good deal?
As I said at the beginning, EVs are not the light at the end of the tunnel and they are not for everybody, but for the people that fit the use they are a great choice now.
Trucks...I don't see it that easy...
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Michelle.S wrote:That's OK, I've read that the brand new Pepsi Tesla Semi was spotting behind a Tow Rig!
First, is a Tesla, they have the worst quality. Second, New product, New technology, I would expect to see more than one...
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map40 wrote:As far as I care, I did. What is the biggest problem with EVs? Dealing with charging, finding the chargers and waiting 1 hour. I did not have to do that once. I did it by having an APU, but that is the compromise that makes it worth while. I ran the APU 5 times last year. That saved me from EVER HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT CHARGING, NOT ONCEDURING THE WHOLE YEAR. However you look at it, it eliminated the only problem I had with having an EV. Ask any EV owner, that is the biggest problem.
Forget politics, preconceptions and ideologies. If I offer you a car that is more efficient, that runs on fuel at least 5 times cheaper, that you can refuel at home and that you can drive it as far as you want, wouldn't that be a good deal?
As I said at the beginning, EVs are not the light at the end of the tunnel and they are not for everybody, but for the people that fit the use they are a great choice now.
Trucks...I don't see it that easy...
People like to rip on the i3, but I think it's the best design for an EV. A series hybrid if you will. Just a tweak in firmware like you did to allow the IC charger to run full blast and build up charge.
Towing aside, that implementation would work for 99% of commuters. Charge at home, and rely on the 30hp charger. Your *average* hp consumption is far less than 30hp during commute drive.
Call it whatever, hybrid, EV with IC charger, etc. But that approach can be applied to any commuter - Civics, small crossovers, hatchbacks. Way less complex than a Volt or parallel hybrid. A Honda CBR 500 type motor can be had for a $1 - 2k if mass produced.
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Does the i3 have an equal to a motorcycle engine in it! Might be what older sister has. She claims 75'ish miles with that motor until out of fuel. 175-200 on battery power.
I'm positive BIL can figure out the electrical change out part....
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RoyJ wrote:
People like to rip on the i3, but I think it's the best design for an EV. A series hybrid if you will. Just a tweak in firmware like you did to allow the IC charger to run full blast and build up charge.
Towing aside, that implementation would work for 99% of commuters. Charge at home, and rely on the 30hp charger. Your *average* hp consumption is far less than 30hp during commute drive.
Call it whatever, hybrid, EV with IC charger, etc. But that approach can be applied to any commuter - Civics, small crossovers, hatchbacks. Way less complex than a Volt or parallel hybrid. A Honda CBR 500 type motor can be had for a $1 - 2k if mass produced.
Could not agree more. Carbon fiber with bonded aluminum chassis, bullet-proof battery, perfect generator integration. BMW developed the I3 to learn, and it is for me the best designed EV you can buy. Is it for everybody? No. But for a big group of people it will do perfect.
Think about this, a car with 400 miles of battery range, how good is it to conmute? You pay and drag 3 times the battery capacity that what you use every day only to use it a few times a year? And you still need to charge it and depend on chargers? Not good for me. This works perfect for the application.
The only way that people will adopt the technology is if it is cheaper and as convenient as ICE. The I3 does it perfectly
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