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blt2ski

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ppine wrote:

I see no plan or intent to replace gas engines with EVs. Okay maybe in California. EVs are a tool in the tool box. They seem best suited for commuter vehicles in urban environments. Now there are conversion kits to power classic cars and sports cars with electric motors. EVs may just be a stepping stone to hydrogen powered cars or the next tech after that.

Diesel engines deserve some special mention, but don't seem to get much appreciation in the US by law makers. In Europe over half the cars run on diesel. All of the trucks. There are diesel lawn mowers and outboard motors most places outside the US. Diesel can be converted to hydrogen. They can run on peanut oil, waste cooking oil, fuel from algae and fuel from wood. Diesel tech will be around for a long time.

We are likely to have a mix of power sources for transportation for the next 20 years or so until one stands out and gets promoted by the government.


Boats are coming out with DC power in them too.
I have seen multitudes of diesel lawnmowers etc in the 40 years in that industry. Like a lot of things, is there an ROI on extra cost. Heavier motor, so wider tires are needed to bridge loads across soft surfaces....issues that vehicle owners have to deal with.

I personally don't see the issue of having more than one power option for what we use. If it makes cents to use electric, use it, diesel or gas makes cents, use it. I would prefer the government(s) to not push a given fuel use for vehicles. Only to push best for your needs to be as clean from an environmental standpoint for how you drive etc.

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Ford lighning ev off grid solar battery on wheels

https://youtu.be/ATyBdJic8-o

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free radical wrote:

Ford lighning ev off grid solar battery on wheels

https://youtu.be/ATyBdJic8-o


Well, that video did not end like I thought! Some good thoughts on his part (like make "normal" cars that happen to be electric), and too bad about his issues... and there were a lot, did not make the Lightning look good, lol!


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This is a special thread.

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Danger Don wrote:

This is a special thread.


I know you just joined here. But there are a lot of special threads….lol.
Like why it would be a good idea to try to use a $90k pickup as an off grid setup….
Just for the clicks man. Gotta be an influencer these days to hang w the cool kids! Lol


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Well GM just sunk a boatload of $ into the next gen V8 engine and about 10% of that boatload into EVs….
Which has nothing to do with the yuppie Lightning guy video, but whatever.

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750 miles of range in a tesla real life.

600 miles claimed.

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Starting to smell like rotten tuna or leftovers from 8.1van that were left in the fridge for 3 weeks and got moldy…..
Btw wonder where he took off too?
Didn’t think aboot it until now. But I was totally right!! He WAS only here to spam us with Tesla garbage. Right under the mods noses for years!! (Now that’s funny,just act old weird and senile and your success spamming % goes thru the roof! It’s genus on his part actually.)

Since the sooper dooper Tesla thread got shut down he’s been gone!

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Grit dog wrote:

Well GM just sunk a boatload of $ into the next gen V8 engine and about 10% of that boatload into EVs….
Which has nothing to do with the yuppie Lightning guy video, but whatever.
Maybe the V8 remake is getting a bit too expensive.
The 10% spent on an EV might make the same sales and profit as the boatload spent on continuing the V8.


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Grit dog wrote:

Well GM just sunk a boatload of $ into the next gen V8 engine and about 10% of that boatload into EVs….
Which has nothing to do with the yuppie Lightning guy video, but whatever.
Maybe the V8 remake is getting a bit too expensive.
The 10% spent on an EV might make the same sales and profit as the boatload spent on continuing the V8.


You know I thought about that too. Then I realized that as a for profit company, it is highly likely that they are trying to maximize profit from both sectors and believe the $ invested to be appropriate for the expected return. No sense in nonsensical speculating as you’ve done.

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