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valhalla360 wrote:For small aerodynamic passenger cars used for commutting, EV is viable. Not so much for trucks towing large brick shaped trailers. I see the EV econobox as a bit overrated because they already get decent fuel economy.
Large vehicles and trucks going EV will save substantially more fuel and reduce air pollution even more per mile driven. Many trucks and large SUVs are used for commuting and should serve the owners well. Many of these large vehicles never tow anything ever.
I agree long distance towing is still a struggle with range for what is currently available.
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time2roll wrote:valhalla360 wrote:For small aerodynamic passenger cars used for commutting, EV is viable. Not so much for trucks towing large brick shaped trailers. I see the EV econobox as a bit overrated because they already get decent fuel economy.
Large vehicles and trucks going EV will save substantially more fuel and reduce air pollution even more per mile driven. Many trucks and large SUVs are used for commuting and should serve the owners well. Many of these large vehicles never tow anything ever.
I agree long distance towing is still a struggle with range for what is currently available.
Local delivery trucks (typically not heavily loaded) and city busses (lot of time stopped or braking) are also viable because they don't travel a lot of miles and because they are generally low speed, aerodynamics isn't critical.
For long haul heavy hauling, it runs into the law of diminishing returns...the bigger the battery, the less payload for cargo and range all at a higher upfront cost.
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Yes they did need to recharge on the far side having driven from Bolder. The impressive part is that loaded with a 8,500# trailer the truck and trailer out accelerated the unloaded Ram Hemi at the start of the test! Then ran 60 mph up the entire Ike.
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Reisender wrote:dodge guy wrote:And how long does it take to recharge to 100% from 10%? I know a truck takes 10 minutes to fill a large tank. And with a level 2 charger it will take 2-3 hours!
No. A level 2 charger will be anywhere from 6 to 12 hours depending on the EVSE and it’s rating.
A level 3 DCFC would probably be closer to 30 to 40 minutes to 90 percent assuming a DCFC CCS machine of 200 kw or more. But this particular Rivian only has the medium sized battery so the long range Rivian will probably be closer to 40 to 50 minutes to 90 percent.
Not an expert. JMHO.
Just remember, the electricity being used for charging more and more, and faster and faster, is being generated by coal and fossil fuels, thus the more EV on the road, the more pollution in the atmosphere. Aren't these wonderful times?
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larry cad wrote:...
Just remember, the electricity being used for charging more and more, and faster and faster, is being generated by coal and fossil fuels, thus the more EV on the road, the more pollution in the atmosphere. Aren't these wonderful times?
Just wait - you are going to be told that outside Ohio, everyone uses sun and wind (maybe water), and not any pollution.
I drive my Bolt because it was cheaper, since I see two coal powered electric generation plants from my doorwall, and the coal is delivered by ship, and pushed by dozers.
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specta wrote:Electric vehicles are going to save the planet just like plastic bags and plastic straws did.
Washifornia is already past the no plastic grocery bags (King county still issues paper straws at the foofy restaurants) and back to plastic grocery bags for $0.08 a piece and they're like 5x as thick as the old ones to promote "re-use". In reality I'd bet they are just creating more plastics garbage.
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larry cad wrote:Reisender wrote:dodge guy wrote:And how long does it take to recharge to 100% from 10%? I know a truck takes 10 minutes to fill a large tank. And with a level 2 charger it will take 2-3 hours!
No. A level 2 charger will be anywhere from 6 to 12 hours depending on the EVSE and it’s rating.
A level 3 DCFC would probably be closer to 30 to 40 minutes to 90 percent assuming a DCFC CCS machine of 200 kw or more. But this particular Rivian only has the medium sized battery so the long range Rivian will probably be closer to 40 to 50 minutes to 90 percent.
Not an expert. JMHO.
Just remember, the electricity being used for charging more and more, and faster and faster, is being generated by coal and fossil fuels, thus the more EV on the road, the more pollution in the atmosphere. Aren't these wonderful times?
I wouldn’t know. I’m not American. Do you guys really still generate that much power from coal?
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Yes the US is 100% powered by coal.
I guess we never thought about the utility pollution. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
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larry cad wrote:Just remember, the electricity being used for charging more and more, and faster and faster, is being generated by coal and fossil fuels, thus the more EV on the road, the more pollution in the atmosphere. Aren't these wonderful times?
Some light reading for you from the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Sources of U.S. electricity generation, 2020
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How about Metro Detroit - As of 2020, 49.66% of DTE's electricity was generated from coal, 21.07% from nuclear, 17.21% from natural gas and 11.81% from renewable energy including wind, solar and hydroelectric.
So it appears to be 2.5 times as much as US average. Anybody need me to add pictures of coal piles or coal generation plants?
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