JRscooby
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What year did the market for light trucks begin? I'm thinking sometime in the mid 1920s? I'm sure most of use can remember what the average pickup was like in the mid '60s, and few could compare them to restored vehicles from the '30s, and see lots of improvement in usefulness.
Now what year did they start selling electric powered pickups?
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BCSnob
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Btw there have been other tow tests:
Motor trend
Car and driver
Rivian employee moving cross country
These all have the same theme: slow charging time and poor access to charging while pulling a trailer. Insufficient infrastructure for EVs. In these, non extreme, tow tests the range was closer to 170. All the takeaways were increase the range (issue with the truck) and significantly improve the infrastructure. For a family on vacation stopping every 2-2.5 hrs may not be an issue as long as recharging was 15min or less.
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RCMAN46
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time2roll wrote:specta wrote:Last year there were areas in CA that people were asked to not charge their electric cars due to a shortage of electricity. Yea OK so CA has been asking people to conserve energy in the afternoon since at least the 1960s.
Normal and ordinary. EVERY utility has this issue as a natural use daily cycle.
http://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx
Lack of generating capacity is actually quite rare in CA.
Also note that coal is 0.1% in CA.
While there may be only 0.1% of California is from coal. That is only plants in California. California imports 30.8% of its power needs. Where do you think most of that power comes from and how it is generated?
I suspect a large percentage is from coal powered plants outside of California.
Lack of generating capacity in Ca is rare? In August of 2020 Ca issued a rolling blackout plus the fact Ca imports 30.8% of its power I would conclude Ca has a serious power capacity problem.
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time2roll
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Yes in 2020 there was a few rolling blackouts in a limited area due to a natural gas plant dropping off line unexpectedly during unusually high demand. That was the first in about 20 years since the last time during the screwball Enron days.
I understand much of the imports are hydro from the north.
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RCMAN46
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time2roll wrote:Yes in 2020 there was a few rolling blackouts in a limited area due to a natural gas plant dropping off line unexpectedly during unusually high demand. That was the first in about 20 years since the last time during the screwball Enron days.
I understand much of the imports are hydro from the north.
When power is imported you can not designate what source it comes from. all sources are connected to the same grid.
Hydro power only accounts for 7.3% of power generated in the USA. I suspect the northern states use all of their own hydro.
Fossil fuel accounts for about 60% of power generated in USA and Nuclear 20%.
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time2roll
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About 10% of California's total electricity imports are from coal-fired power plants, but coal's total contribution to the state's electricity supply from imports and in-state generation in 2019 was less than 3%
https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=CA
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Cummins12V98
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specta wrote:free radical wrote:specta wrote:Electric vehicles are going to save the planet just like plastic bags and plastic straws did.
Not unless everyone gets on board
Ever been to India
https://youtu.be/WsSJvfpehAk
The isn't India.
I would like to see a subdivision that its electric grid is capable of charging an electric car if they're in every garage.
Last year there were areas in CA that people were asked to not charge their electric cars due to a shortage of electricity.
People are putting the cart before the horse with electric vehicles.
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YEP the greenies won't talk about all the earth raping that it takes to make their clean green cars move.
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Cummins12V98
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"For his use, the 95cc+ ported smoky stinky 2-stroke work wonders"
That simply is a Barbra Streisand statement!!! Modern 2 stroke engines burn very clean. Especially if they use 100-1 AMZ/OIL 2 cycle oil like I do. Simply no smell or smoke.
But hey if your vehicle doesn't emit them it must be clean and green right??????
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BCSnob
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Even at 88% coal produced electricity (as in WV) EVs have 22% lower annual emissions than ICEs. Does this mean a coal fired plant is cleaner than an ICE?![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/eek.gif "eek") . Maybe that means it’s easier to scrub the emissions from a stationary source than a mobile ICE.
In UT (where coal produces 61% of the electricity) EVs produce 37% less than ICEs annually.
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RCMAN46 wrote:time2roll wrote:Yes in 2020 there was a few rolling blackouts in a limited area due to a natural gas plant dropping off line unexpectedly during unusually high demand. That was the first in about 20 years since the last time during the screwball Enron days.
I understand much of the imports are hydro from the north.
When power is imported you can not designate what source it comes from. all sources are connected to the same grid.
Hydro power only accounts for 7.3% of power generated in the USA. I suspect the northern states use all of their own hydro.
Fossil fuel accounts for about 60% of power generated in USA and Nuclear 20%.
Phew! Gonna be a tall order to revise almost 80% of the nations "fuel" for electricity generation from fossil fuels and a source that will melt your brain to wind, solar and unicorn farts.
Hydro generation is on it's way down in many areas, as well, due to all the lawsuits and pressure from the leaf lickers and tribes.
Maybe if we all planted a big @ss wind mill in our backyards and covered our entire property with solar panels (but then all the shade would kill the grass and be bad for the animals too....) then we could get rid of all the "bad things" that produce our power.
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