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01tundra

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Groover wrote:

Mike134 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Based on the 3.5ecoboost and this being an improvement, it should do great.

But as someone mentioned, payload will likely be your limitation.


Payload should be the similar as a 3.5 Ford raised the GVWR by 300lbs on the power boost models.


It is much easier now to get the Max Payload Package than it used to be and is especially easy on the 4wd Powerboost models. With MPP you should have adequate payload for most campers.

When I spec out a 4wd Lariat with 6.5ft bed and Powerboost MPP comes by default.


According to the Ford website you can not get the max payload option with any trim level with the Powerboost engine.


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^^^Agree. I couldn't build any configuration that allowed both PowerBoost and HDPP.

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You guys seem to be right about HDPP for 2022. With the 2021 build and price it came right up on its own. This year I can't get it. I didn't expect that to happen and this morning was the first time I could get all the way through the process for the 2022 model.

That was half the reason that I was interested in trading. I am very disappointed.

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shelbyfv wrote:

^^^Agree. I couldn't build any configuration that allowed both PowerBoost and HDPP.


With the extra weights of the electric motor and battery, I don't see how they can offer the HDPP.


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I think that I have it figured out. You have to specify the 6 1/2ft bed, which I thought that I had this morning but apparently did not. When you do that the 3.73 axle ratio comes up with 4wd. Here is what my build looks like:

2022 Lariat PowerBoost with HDPP

2022 Ford towing guide:
2022 towing guide

If you look on page 13 you will find this wording:
"F-150 HEAVY-DUTY PAYLOAD PACKAGE
(OPTION CODE 627)
Increases GVWR to 7,850 lbs. on XL and XLT
LT275/65R18C OWL A/T tires
18" silver aluminum heavy-duty wheels
Upgraded springs
9.75" gear set with 3.73 electronic-locking
rear axle"

The towing guide for the hybrid is on page 22 and you can see that the 145" wheelbase (5.5ft bed) comes with 3.55 gears while the 157" wheelbase (6.5FT bed) come with 3.73 gears.

It is interesting that the info on page 13 only specifies the GVWR for XL and XLT models.

SUPERCREW®
Axle GCWR 4x2 4x4
Engine Ratio (lbs.) 145.4" WB 157.2" WB 145.4" WB 157.2" WB
3.5L Hybrid V61 3.55 16,700 11,000
16,800 11,100
18,4002 12,700 12,700
3.73 17,000 11,000 11,000
18,4002
12,400 12,400

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Groover wrote:

I think that I have it figured out. You have to specify the 6 1/2ft bed, which I thought that I had this morning but apparently did not. When you do that the 3.73 axle ratio comes up with 4wd. Here is what my build looks like:

2022 Lariat PowerBoost with HDPP

2022 Ford towing guide:
2022 towing guide

If you look on page 13 you will find this wording:
"F-150 HEAVY-DUTY PAYLOAD PACKAGE
(OPTION CODE 627)
Increases GVWR to 7,850 lbs. on XL and XLT
LT275/65R18C OWL A/T tires
18" silver aluminum heavy-duty wheels
Upgraded springs
9.75" gear set with 3.73 electronic-locking
rear axle"

The towing guide for the hybrid is on page 22 and you can see that the 145" wheelbase (5.5ft bed) comes with 3.55 gears while the 157" wheelbase (6.5FT bed) come with 3.73 gears.

It is interesting that the info on page 13 only specifies the GVWR for XL and XLT models.

SUPERCREW®
Axle GCWR 4x2 4x4
Engine Ratio (lbs.) 145.4" WB 157.2" WB 145.4" WB 157.2" WB
3.5L Hybrid V61 3.55 16,700 11,000
16,800 11,100
18,4002 12,700 12,700
3.73 17,000 11,000 11,000
18,4002
12,400 12,400


All I'm seeing is the Max Trailer Tow Package available on a crew cab lariat 4x4 6.5' bed with a 3.73 axle gears ratio?

I see no option to select the HDPP package with any of the Powerboosts. The Powerboost GVWR is slightly increased by default, but that's to help compensate for the extra weight associated with the hybrid system.

The HDPP package is not available on the standard Lariat either, only on XLT and down.

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Groover wrote:

Here is what my build looks like:

2022 Lariat PowerBoost with HDPP


$72,000?!?! The 39 month LEASE payment is $858!!!

Why muck around at those prices, if you're gonna tow heavy just get the 350 and be done with it.

We leased a 2018 Explorer Sport with the 3.5L Ecoboost and towed a double-axle enclosed U-haul trailer from NY to WI, sure it had power to spare, but you could set your watch by the fuel stops, every 2 hrs and 93 octane only...

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