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HMS Beagle

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Posted: 02/26/21 09:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bert the Welder wrote:

Don't worry about coming to Canada. Our poosy gov't doesn't have the walnuts to actually close the boarder like they should.
I'm on Van. Isl and I've seen, Texas, Florida, Utah, Mass., Arizona, Cal., New York, etc, etc, etc..... license plates. And there's no way they are all new residents that just haven't changed their registration and they can't have 'accidentally' come to the Isl. going from Wash State to AK.

I'm in Victoria so I'll have to check out T.C. Though I've not the need for one, always nice to see what's going on locally.

One thing I never figured out is given how quick and cheap it would be, why don't manufacturers prime and paint the wood components. It's not the be all, end all. But would certainly help.

Also, since you guys seem to know about fiberglass, something I wondered about was the holes for the windows, vents, etc. Why are they not built into the mould? Not like they custom move windows around for each order. Rather then hacking in a hole with a flat edge, a small curb could be moulded in. Just a 1/2" would do the trick. Would work for both roof and wall penetrations I'd think. But I'd be please to hear if you think this is not possible.


I've got a boat stuck in Canada (Sidney) and they won't let me in. Friends of mine tried twice, once driving through Vancouver and another time flew to Victoria, both times got turned back without humor.

Now, on fiberglass, why indeed do the penetrations not have molded features? I think the answer for Bigfoot lies in that they use the same mold for several models, which have roof skylights and windows in different places depending on floor plan. On a boat, you would have flat bosses for the flat windows and hatches, the core would be closed out around those holes to eliminate the possibility of leakage. On the roof, the boss would be raised, and since from the beginning of time water has run downhill that alone would cure 90% of roof leaks. These things have been done since the 60's on fiberglass boats.

Even if you do not have specific features in the mold, on a boat when you penetrate a cored surface you rebate the core for about 1/2 - 1x it's thickness, and fill the gap between the skins with a watertight filler (usually thickened epoxy on a boat). This closes the core, and makes a hard rim to attach the window. Bigfoot kinda-sorta does this in some places, they replace the core with wood at the edges of known penetrations, sometimes. This is what I would do with a T-C built shell. If the core is very thick (which the T-C shells are), after rebating the core I'd bond in a fiberglass U channel or rectangular tube all around. Stiffens the hole edges, waterproofs the core, and provides a hard spot to fasten the window.


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Posted: 02/26/21 10:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

HMS Beagle wrote:

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I've got a boat stuck in Canada (Sidney) and they won't let me in. Friends of mine tried twice, once driving through Vancouver and another time flew to Victoria, both times got turned back without humor.



HMSBeagle - commercial traffic across the border is not closed. Suggest you contact a tow boat or similar operation to sail your boat to a US harbor for you.

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Posted: 02/26/21 10:06am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bert the Welder wrote:

Just hit T.C. site. More stuff coming in Mar.
They look pretty neat. But looks like their targeting the tent campers that just want a step up to something more secure and dryer. Which is a smart market to fill. I'd be in that market. Maybe they'll eventually make bigger units.
Just think they'd be smarter with their leg brackets by having tab's that go under the corners to help with load bearing.


Bert I got lost in the thread here.

Total Composites is a commercial truck body manufacturer. They will include backing for all kinds of mounts and brackets in the floor and rear wall panels of a camper body.

I think they told me panels can be up to 48 feet long.

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noteven wrote:

HMS Beagle wrote:

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I've got a boat stuck in Canada (Sidney) and they won't let me in. Friends of mine tried twice, once driving through Vancouver and another time flew to Victoria, both times got turned back without humor.



HMSBeagle - commercial traffic across the border is not closed. Suggest you contact a tow boat or similar operation to sail your boat to a US harbor for you.


It is a complicated problem. Commercial tow is phenomenally expensive and until fairly recently very few wanted to try it because of the risk (might get stuck in 14 days quarantine). There are now a few delivery captains that have worked out the kinks, so with luck my boat will get delivered next month. Boat has to get launched first, I'm not there to recommission it - it's complicated.

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Posted: 02/27/21 05:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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noteven wrote:

HMS Beagle wrote:

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I've got a boat stuck in Canada (Sidney) and they won't let me in. Friends of mine tried twice, once driving through Vancouver and another time flew to Victoria, both times got turned back without humor.



HMSBeagle - commercial traffic across the border is not closed. Suggest you contact a tow boat or similar operation to sail your boat to a US harbor for you.


It is a complicated problem. Commercial tow is phenomenally expensive and until fairly recently very few wanted to try it because of the risk (might get stuck in 14 days quarantine). There are now a few delivery captains that have worked out the kinks, so with luck my boat will get delivered next month. Boat has to get launched first, I'm not there to recommission it - it's complicated.


Ok. Ya I was thinking hire it sailed to the US. I hope everything works out.

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Bert I got lost in the thread here.

Total Composites is a commercial truck body manufacturer. They will include backing for all kinds of mounts and brackets in the floor and rear wall panels of a camper body.

I think they told me panels can be up to 48 feet long.


[emoticon] That's cool. I'd guess that the shell is the hardest and most critical part. But a good DIY'er could handle the rest and save a bunch and get exactly what they want without stuff and fluff they don't.


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Posted: 03/03/21 02:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

HMS Beagle wrote:

It is a complicated problem. Commercial tow is phenomenally expensive and until fairly recently very few wanted to try it because of the risk (might get stuck in 14 days quarantine). There are now a few delivery captains that have worked out the kinks, so with luck my boat will get delivered next month. Boat has to get launched first, I'm not there to recommission it - it's complicated.

I wonder if you could meet someone out in international waters where they could pass the boat on to you?


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