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JimK-NY wrote:geo11RT wrote:.....
I find that hard to believe. 60 years of TCs with many makers and models and not one? I will wait for others to chime in.
I am not sure why that seems hard to believe. A truck camper must fit in the relatively small bed of a pickup truck. Trying to sleep or even fit 5 people in that space would require a beast of a truck camper with large slides.
If you re-read what I want, you will see that this is very feasible, it is not an absolute. Just making a blanket statement like the other Jim said is um, silly (to be nice). As you can see, there are numerous other people that have posted ideas and models and have made it work. And provided insight to other materials that would prevent delam. It boils down to if you can think outside the box or take things literally Jim.
Additionally, I know Northern did make a slide with their molded fiberglass shell.
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I have a nice travel trailer already, I don't want to take it because I am towing a vehicle, hence looking into a TC. I could get a 5er and triple tow, but rather not. I appreciate those who have contributed so far.
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geo11RT wrote:work2much wrote:geo11RT wrote:
I will look at the 830. Keep the suggestions coming. The DW really likes the 1072/1172 but the wrong outside material.
I believe Lance uses Azdel for their wall construction. They are supposed to be impervious to delamination.
https://www.azdelonboard.com
Ok, this is interesting. Is this saying that azdel sided Lance campers (or any other manufacturer) do not suffer from delam? If so, I would be open to this
Yes, that is their claim. Azdel is not a brand new product, been around for a few years and I haven't seen anything to refute their claims. The product is wood free thus no rotting of substructure which is the primary cause of delamination. The link includes more info.
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geo11RT wrote:If you re-read what I want, you will see that this is very feasible, it is not an absolute. Just making a blanket statement like the other Jim said is um, silly (to be nice).
To be clear, you aren’t being nice. You are being rude. It’s ok though it happens all of the time on the internet. Eventually, you’ll see that both this Jim and the other Jim that you just responded to are right based on “your requirements” in your first post.
If you want to change your requirements, that’s ok, too. But that doesn’t make us wrong retroactively.
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We'd all like them built like Dr Who's Tardis: bigger inside then outside. Big enough to contain at least an olympic swimming pool, tennis court, and baseball field. Big enough to carry ALLLLL the **** we NEEEED every single day. Yet light enough we can carry on the plane with us and toss into the sub-compact rental car's trunk.
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first you want a big and heavy camper. than you say your towing vehicle so there is a new requirement. what kind of truck you loading all this up into?
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jimh425 wrote:geo11RT wrote:If you re-read what I want, you will see that this is very feasible, it is not an absolute. Just making a blanket statement like the other Jim said is um, silly (to be nice).
To be clear, you aren’t being nice. You are being rude. It’s ok though it happens all of the time on the internet. Eventually, you’ll see that both this Jim and the other Jim that you just responded to are right based on “your requirements” in your first post.
If you want to change your requirements, that’s ok, too. But that doesn’t make us wrong retroactively.
Well we can agree to disagree. What I wanted to say was not nice so I refrained. Yes you both were wrong. I asked for input and you two basically said tersely "Nope, look elsewhere, it cannot be done". I do not accept that. To me, that is rude if you want to get into semantics. I already said I would build a bunk if needed. And I know Northern builds one with a slide. The slide was optional, not required as I wrote. I am not wanting to get into an argument but when you put me in a corner, I will fight back. If you back away, maybe we can get along.
Given the (mostly helpful) advice, what are some better makes out there? I have Northern and Bigfoot. I do like the the info regarding Azdel, I need to research this. Assuming this is acceptable, what manufactures use this?
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towpro wrote:first you want a big and heavy camper. than you say your towing vehicle so there is a new requirement. what kind of truck you loading all this up into?
Vehicle will be flat towed, so minimal tongue weight. 6000 lbs or so. I have not purchased a truck yet, I am figuring out the TC first. But it will be a diesel dually long bed for sure, like a F450 or perhaps F350/3500 depending on year/payload cap.
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geo11RT, sounds like you're on the right track, setup wise.
Not to be-labor the argument, you started off with a list of "requirements", which is different than "preferences."
All your requirements added up to unobtanium...which you're beginning to see. Doesn't mean there isn't a camper that will work for your family, in fact quite the opposite.
Just don't get offended when someone refutes your pre-determined "requirements."
"Northern" doesn't build one with a slide if you mean Northern Lite, the clamshell camper. Very nice high end unit, but no slide.
If you're confusing it with Northland who dies build slide outs, no harm, no foul, but it doesn't meet your other requirement for the construction method.
Both Jims here are very knowledgeable and neither were wrong, only wrong in your eyes.
Either way, your upcoming trip will be EPIC. It's what prompted us to get a TC several years ago and was the perfect fit for us to see AK for a summer.
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geo11RT wrote:when you put me in a corner, I will fight back. If you back away, maybe we can get along.
You put yourself into a corner by how you asked your question, and you are fighting yourself.
Bigfoot built models with slides in the 2006 timeframe under the original ownership, but I’m pretty certain Northern Lite has never made a slide for their TCs.
Azdel is used only by Lance in the TC world. I’m not sure what year Lance started using it, but many TT manufacturers started about 2011-2012. My guess is they might have started it using it then, or perhaps when they were bought out/sold.
Someone else will probably chime in.
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