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BCSnob

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Posted: 01/28/22 10:21am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

PDQXYZ wrote:

BCSnob wrote:

The next next place to look are the websites for various pharmacies in your area that offer vaccinations.
Walgreens
CVS
Etc

Or your state health dept
https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/


I am still coming up with zero results on finding Comirnaty and am rapidly coming to the conclusion that it isn't available which surely must not be correct. Pfizer/Moderna shots are widely available, so it doesn't seem to be a production issue.

Has anyone actually found this product? Can anybody help me find it?


Did you see in a previous post that Comirnaty is manufactured by Pfizer? Most websites list vaccines by manufacturer not vaccine name because the vaccine names came out after the websites were made.

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Posted: 01/29/22 06:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here is a new study that clearly demonstrates the benefits to others you’re providing by being vaccinated. I’m posting a large portion of the text here since I suspect many don’t follow the links to read the original article. The quoted text includes a discussion of previous studies showing the societal benefits you are providing by being vaccinated.

Indirect protection of children from SARS-CoV-2 infection through parental vaccination
SCIENCE • 27 Jan 2022

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Previous findings have also shown a substantial indirect effect for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. A study focusing on unvaccinated spouses of healthcare workers found the indirect effect to be 43% (23%, 58%) ten weeks after receipt of the first vaccine dose (11). A study from Israel found that once COVID-19 is introduced into a household, vaccination reduces infectivity by 78% (30%, 94%) (12). Another study from Israel using geographical areas to estimate the community level protection resulting from vaccinated individuals, found that on average, for every 20 percentage points increase in the number of vaccinated individuals, the positive test fraction of the unvaccinated population decreased by a factor of approximately two (13).

The present study focused on the indirect benefits of vaccinated parents for unvaccinated children. Indirect vaccine effects are mediated by two main mechanisms: First, by protecting potential contacts, vaccination reduces the likelihood that subjects will encounter an infectious individual. Second, vaccination may reduce the infectiousness of vaccinated individuals who do acquire the infection (17, 18). The current study explored these two mechanisms by estimating the direct effect of parental vaccination on parental infection, as well as the vaccination-related change in the risk of infection from an infected parent to a susceptible child. We found the direct effect of parental vaccination with two vaccine doses to be 94.4% (93.2%, 95.4%) for acquiring a documented infection with the Alpha variant, and the direct effect of a booster dose to be 86.3% (83.4%, 88.6%) for acquiring a documented infection with the Delta variant. This high effectiveness when comparing parents who have received the booster dose and those who haven’t also hints at waning immunity following the second dose. Furthermore, we found that infectiousness to the children in the household from an infected parent vaccinated with two doses is reduced by 72.1% (36.6%, 89.3%) compared to an unvaccinated parent, and infectiousness from a booster-vaccinated parent is reduced by 79.6% (55.9%, 91.8%) compared to a parent who did not receive the booster vaccination dose, in each case adjusting for the vaccination status of the other parent. It should be emphasized that we should not expect the indirect risk to be equal to the product of the direct risk and the infectiousness, as children may also be infected outside of the household or, potentially, through the other parent. The estimated direct VE of the parents is consistent with previous literature (9, 19), as are the results concerning the reduced SAR (12).


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The case for use of masking has been poorly presented. As a result the uneducated argue the virus easily passes through woven fabric. They are almost correct.

Invite the naysayers outside on a calm frosty morning. Carry your mask.
Watch the formation of vapor as you speak. Speak loudly, shout, sing, whatever.
See the vapor cloud you produce? That's viral laden media direct from the lungs.

Now put on your mask and repeat. Whoa! The breath travel distance is severely inhibited. Your virus stays close by. Now you see the value of distancing between people indoors. More learning: If you do the demonstration inside a crowded building the vapor from everyone mixes. The value of room capacity limits is made painfully clear.

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Posted: 01/31/22 10:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Omicron VOC subvariants BA.1 and BA.2: Evidence from Danish Households
MedRxiv preprint 30Jan2022

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We conclude that Omicron BA.2 is inherently substantially more transmissible than BA.1, and that it also possesses immune-evasive properties that further reduce the protective effect of vaccination against infection, but do not increase its transmissibility from vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections.


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Posted: 01/31/22 10:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Moderna’s mRNA-1273 moves from EAU (emergency use authorization) to full FDA approval and gets a new name.

“Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved a second COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine; the approved vaccine will be marketed as Spikevax for the prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 18 years of age and older.”
FDA Press Release

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Posted: 02/01/22 05:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BCSnob wrote:

PDQXYZ wrote:

BCSnob wrote:

The next next place to look are the websites for various pharmacies in your area that offer vaccinations.
Walgreens
CVS
Etc

Or your state health dept
https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/


I am still coming up with zero results on finding Comirnaty and am rapidly coming to the conclusion that it isn't available which surely must not be correct. Pfizer/Moderna shots are widely available, so it doesn't seem to be a production issue.

Has anyone actually found this product? Can anybody help me find it?


Did you see in a previous post that Comirnaty is manufactured by Pfizer? Most websites list vaccines by manufacturer not vaccine name because the vaccine names came out after the websites were made.


That is the problem. I can find Pfizer shots all over. Can't find the "legally distinct" Comirnaty. When I call places that advertise Pfizer, they tell me it is not labeled as Comirnaty, it's labeled as Pfizer/Biontech which is released under the EUA. Same way it shows here. https://www.vaccines.gov/search/

Can anyone else find Comirnaty?

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Posted: 02/01/22 06:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pfizer IS approved and has been for a while!

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by: Judith Retana

RALEIGH, N.C. (WNCN) – Pfizer was the first pharmaceutical company to have its vaccine receive full approval from the Federal Drug Administration.


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Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine receives full FDA approval
By Naomi Thomas and Ben Tinker, CNN

Updated 12:04 PM ET, Mon January 31, 2022


Your search is over.

* This post was edited 02/01/22 06:20am by Moderator *

BCSnob

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That is the problem. I can find Pfizer shots all over. Can't find the "legally distinct" Comirnaty. When I call places that advertise Pfizer, they tell me it is not labeled as Comirnaty, it's labeled as Pfizer/Biontech which is released under the EUA. Same way it shows here. https://www.vaccines.gov/search/

Can anyone else find Comirnaty?

What/where is your requirement that it must have the label “comirnaty”?

The only thing that has changed with full fda approval about this vaccine since the beginning of the clinical trials is the label on the vial. Nothing is allowed by the fda to change about what is in the vial, how it got in the vial, how it is tested, and perhaps not even the vial. The fda approved not only the vaccine but the entire manufacturing process of the vaccine based upon the data collected during the clinical trials (if Pfizer changes something about the process then the fda may view the clinical trial data as no longer be applicable to their vaccine after the change).

* This post was edited 02/01/22 07:01am by BCSnob *

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Posted: 02/01/22 07:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

BCSnob wrote:

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That is the problem. I can find Pfizer shots all over. Can't find the "legally distinct" Comirnaty. When I call places that advertise Pfizer, they tell me it is not labeled as Comirnaty, it's labeled as Pfizer/Biontech which is released under the EUA. Same way it shows here. https://www.vaccines.gov/search/

Can anyone else find Comirnaty?

What/where is your requirement that it must have the label “comirnaty”?

The only thing that has changed with full fda approval about this vaccine since the beginning of the clinical trials is the label on the vial. Nothing is allowed by the fda to change about what is in the vial, how it got in the vial, how it is tested, and perhaps not even the vial. The fda approved not only the vaccine but the entire manufacturing process of the vaccine based upon the data collected during the clinical trials (if Pfizer changes something about the process then the fda may view the clinical trial data as no longer be applicable to their vaccine after the change).


The product that was approved is Comirnaty. Until the other day, Comirnaty was the only FDA approved product. The FDA clearly states on it's website that it is a legally distinct product. Can anyone tell me where I can find that product?

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Moderator wrote:

Pfizer IS approved and has been for a while!

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by: Judith Retana

RALEIGH, N.C. (WNCN) – Pfizer was the first pharmaceutical company to have its vaccine receive full approval from the Federal Drug Administration.


And:

Quote:

Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine receives full FDA approval
By Naomi Thomas and Ben Tinker, CNN

Updated 12:04 PM ET, Mon January 31, 2022


Your search is over.


My search is over? Great, so where can I find Comirnaty? Or Spikevax ?

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