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Alright. If you don’t have any sound advice to give in surge protectors or checking for damage, I don’t require any response from you. I learned my lesson . End of story. It seems a lot of people on here were never taught the old saying, “if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say it all” . Haha
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I only posted here to share my experience so that it doesn’t happen again to someone else. Unless anyone has any good advice on surge protectors or ways to check for damage, please keep it moving along.
I could care less about the specifics on electricity and being told it was wired wrong. At the end of the day, it was an accident and if I chose the single pole breaker like I initially had, then it would have never happened. The dual pole breaker was wired the same way every other dual pole breaker in the box was wired. People make mistakes which is why I have full coverage insurance to cover damage. If anything, it’s a 2007 model, so I’ll be getting new appliances if any are burned out. So I win either way at this point. I have a new power converter, and new appliances if needed all for an extra $200. Doesn’t bother me a bit I lost on $200. I’ll make $200 in 4 hours in my line of work. So I’m not worried or upset at all. I still have my camper, and everything is insured.
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xnizstudio wrote: I have a new power converter, and new appliances if needed all for an extra $200. Doesn’t bother me a bit I lost on $200. I’ll make $200 in 4 hours in my line of work. So I’m not worried or upset at all. I still have my camper, and everything is insured.
So, in your opinion it is just great that you can make a mistake, and at a very small cost to you get your camper upgraded? You understand that many that contribute to your repair might need to work longer for their share?
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JRscooby wrote:xnizstudio wrote: I have a new power converter, and new appliances if needed all for an extra $200. Doesn’t bother me a bit I lost on $200. I’ll make $200 in 4 hours in my line of work. So I’m not worried or upset at all. I still have my camper, and everything is insured.
So, in your opinion it is just great that you can make a mistake, and at a very small cost to you get your camper upgraded? You understand that many that contribute to your repair might need to work longer for their share?
That’s their job. Not my problem. They’re getting paid either way.
Another ignorant response. Keep it moving.
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xnizstudio wrote:twodownzero wrote:xnizstudio wrote:twodownzero wrote:Ed_Gee wrote:
Yup....lots of ignorance here.....one does not plug anything into a 'breaker'. That device simply installs in your house breaker box. The question is what did you actually plug your RV into.....my guess is an electric dryer 220v outlet, many of which will unfortunately mate with an RV 30A 120VAC plug. But glad your damage was held to a minimum. Could have been far more costly!
If you're going to be critical, why don't you at least read the thread before running off at the keyboard?
It was plugged into a 30amp RV outlet wired directly to a dual pole 30amp breaker putting out 220v. It was not a **** electric dryer outlet
I know, I read the thread.
I also am going to say that it has nothing to do with the breaker. If dual pole breaker had been wired to only one side with the other side on the neutral where it belonged, this would have never happened. Obviously double breakers are not made to be installed this way, but it would have worked and provided 120 v to the outlet. The problem was not the breaker; it was the wiring job.
And again... had we knew it was 110v we would have never plugged it in and found the proper way to wire it. But , had I got the single pole breaker as originally planned, this would have never happened. The wiring job was fine. It was wired properly for 220v. Had I plugged a house dryer into it, it would have been fine. There was no wiring issue aside from the fact it should have been a single pole or the wiring could have been hacked to put out 110v had we knew it needed 110v.
If you have no better advice related to surge protector systems or ways I can test for damaged appliances, then I respectfully request for you to mind your own business. Thank you.
The wiring job was not fine, because the receptacle was made for 120 volts. Also, apparently you didn't read my post, which explained to you that it is possible, although not consistent with code, to wire a double pole breaker to a 120 v outlet.
I have always thought electricians were massively overselling what they do for a living, especially when it comes to house stuff. This post has me rethinking that, because if you are seriously blaming a circuit breaker for a miswired 120 volt outlet, it demonstrates that some people just should not be doing this kind of work.
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After reading four pages, I give up.
this thread is over my head. Heck yeah, lets use the guy at Lowes as the scape goat. It is all his fault. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes")
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twodownzero wrote:xnizstudio wrote:twodownzero wrote:xnizstudio wrote:twodownzero wrote:Ed_Gee wrote:
Yup....lots of ignorance here.....one does not plug anything into a 'breaker'. That device simply installs in your house breaker box. The question is what did you actually plug your RV into.....my guess is an electric dryer 220v outlet, many of which will unfortunately mate with an RV 30A 120VAC plug. But glad your damage was held to a minimum. Could have been far more costly!
If you're going to be critical, why don't you at least read the thread before running off at the keyboard?
It was plugged into a 30amp RV outlet wired directly to a dual pole 30amp breaker putting out 220v. It was not a **** electric dryer outlet
I know, I read the thread.
I also am going to say that it has nothing to do with the breaker. If dual pole breaker had been wired to only one side with the other side on the neutral where it belonged, this would have never happened. Obviously double breakers are not made to be installed this way, but it would have worked and provided 120 v to the outlet. The problem was not the breaker; it was the wiring job.
And again... had we knew it was 110v we would have never plugged it in and found the proper way to wire it. But , had I got the single pole breaker as originally planned, this would have never happened. The wiring job was fine. It was wired properly for 220v. Had I plugged a house dryer into it, it would have been fine. There was no wiring issue aside from the fact it should have been a single pole or the wiring could have been hacked to put out 110v had we knew it needed 110v.
If you have no better advice related to surge protector systems or ways I can test for damaged appliances, then I respectfully request for you to mind your own business. Thank you.
The wiring job was not fine, because the receptacle was made for 120 volts. Also, apparently you didn't read my post, which explained to you that it is possible, although not consistent with code, to wire a double pole breaker to a 120 v outlet.
I have always thought electricians were massively overselling what they do for a living, especially when it comes to house stuff. This post has me rethinking that, because if you are seriously blaming a circuit breaker for a miswired 120 volt outlet, it demonstrates that some people just should not be doing this kind of work.
By default, a dual pole breaker puts out twice the voltage. It was wired the same as all the other dual pole breakers in the box. The only way to get 110v from a dual pole breaker is to modify the original wiring layout rather than using the intended wiring scheme. Sure you can get the 110v out of the dual pole, but that’s not how it is intended by default.
It “could” have been prevented, sure. But again if no had went with the single pole, it would have never happened with the default / general wiring of a single pole breaker.
I don’t blame the person who wired it because he’s an HVAC technician that installs breakers and transformers for HVAC units. He had no knowledge of camper RV power requirements. I bought the 30amp dual pole breaker. It’s my fault but I partly blame the sales rep who convinced me to change breakers.
Either way, there’s no need to argue. A mistake is a mistake. Sh*t happens . We live and learn.
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Dave H M wrote:After reading four pages, I give up.
this thread is over my head. Heck yeah, lets use the guy at Lowes as the scape goat. It is all his fault.
Lol. It’s my fault but I partly blame him for convincing me to swap breakers .
The purpose of this post was not to discuss electricity requirements or wiring problems.
It was to get advice on surge protectors and ways to check for damage, as well as just sharing my story.
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So.. once again, if anyone has any advice on surge protectors and checking for damage, please feel free to reply.
If you are replying to bash me on the wiring scheme and anything related to power requirements , please keep it moving.
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xnizstudio wrote:JRscooby wrote:xnizstudio wrote: I have a new power converter, and new appliances if needed all for an extra $200. Doesn’t bother me a bit I lost on $200. I’ll make $200 in 4 hours in my line of work. So I’m not worried or upset at all. I still have my camper, and everything is insured.
So, in your opinion it is just great that you can make a mistake, and at a very small cost to you get your camper upgraded? You understand that many that contribute to your repair might need to work longer for their share?
That’s their job. Not my problem. They’re getting paid either way.
Another ignorant response. Keep it moving.
Yes, everybody that pays for insurance should maybe just buy you a new RV just because you are to good to educate yourself? There was a time in this country when accepting responsibility for ones mistakes was considered a virtue. Now somebody pointing out the bragging about passing the cost of their mistake on to others is called ignorant?
I point out that maybe another RV owner might have to work more than your 4 hours to pay his increase in insurance rates for years. I am not very smart, or well educated, but I have a idea about right/wrong.
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Regardless of who wired this power source incorrectly you as the trailer owner are ultimately responsible for knowing the difference and making sure it's correct. Good luck to you, time to edumacate yourself on all things RV as there are many other UH OHs in trailer ownership that are also just waiting to smack you again. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/tongue.gif "tongue")
