MEXICOWANDERER

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All that plus 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Be wise, and move on. A little bruised but a lot wiser.
A lying thieving neighbor just moved out after smashing my 100 dollar tail light lens and caught in the act thieving a motion detector lamp. He left the landlady a 700 peso electrical bill because she kicked his ass out and he had to move.
Sometimes life is a bowl of cherries complete with worms. But put it into perspective -- a car bash is a lot worse, right? or a slip and a broken leg. Or a stroke.
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I think the confusion here comes from the fact that no one read the box for the outlet and saw it is only approved for 120 volt use. Both the box and the outlet itself should be marked to show that it's only to be connected to 120 volts. Had anyone looked at that then there's no way anyone would connect a double pole breaker to it. Also you should have failed inspection if you had one because you had a 120 volt outlet wired to a double pole breaker.
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Neil Citro wrote: I think the confusion here comes from the fact that no one read the box for the outlet and saw it is only approved for 120 volt use. Both the box and the outlet itself should be marked to show that it's only to be connected to 120 volts. Had anyone looked at that then there's no way anyone would connect a double pole breaker to it. Also you should have failed inspection if you had one because you had a 120 volt outlet wired to a double pole breaker.
I agree . I should have read the box on the outlet. It was never inspected and probably won’t be. We live in the country and the land and house where it is pulling power from belongs to my family .
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MEXICOWANDERER wrote: All that plus 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Be wise, and move on. A little bruised but a lot wiser.
A lying thieving neighbor just moved out after smashing my 100 dollar tail light lens and caught in the act thieving a motion detector lamp. He left the landlady a 700 peso electrical bill because she kicked his ass out and he had to move.
Sometimes life is a bowl of cherries complete with worms. But put it into perspective -- a car bash is a lot worse, right? or a slip and a broken leg. Or a stroke.
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Dang man! Bad luck for both of us!
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MEXICOWANDERER wrote: All that plus 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Be wise, and move on. A little bruised but a lot wiser.
A lying thieving neighbor just moved out after smashing my 100 dollar tail light lens and caught in the act thieving a motion detector lamp. He left the landlady a 700 peso electrical bill because she kicked his ass out and he had to move.
Sometimes life is a bowl of cherries complete with worms. But put it into perspective -- a car bash is a lot worse, right? or a slip and a broken leg. Or a stroke.
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ON MEX, seems like you know about more than just batteries and charging systems.
Hope you stay well.
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xnizstudio wrote: Got the SINGLE pole breaker installed and the new converter and all appliances are working without damage .
Anyone who wants to argue about the dual pole breaker being wired incorrectly can read https://www.thespruce.com/installing-a-240-volt-circuit-breaker-1824649
A dual pole breaker provides 240v. A single pole provides 120v.
I’m not an electrician and even I can google and find the above URL. The dual pole breaker was wired to supply 240v .
Bunch of ignorant people on here arguing about how it was wired incorrectly.. feel free to read the above URL
The claim is not that the breaker itself was wired incorrectly, but rather that the receptacle was wired incorrectly. A dual pole breaker is required for a 240V circuit (in North America), but that's not the only thing it can be used to power. It could also be applied to a pair of otherwise unrelated 120V circuits sharing a neutral, as in some areas is or at least was relatively common. It could be used to feed a subpanel which has 120V or 240V circuits. It could indeed also be used to feed a single 120V circuit, though it's rather silly to do so as a single pole breaker is smaller and less expensive.
At any rate, I'm glad you've gotten it all sorted out, and I'm genuinely sorry for the number of people who jumped on you for no good reason.
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Install it and forget it. I have. US made. User serviceable, if needed. Good warranty.
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Thanks for the story. Don't let the negative people on here get you down. There are some on here that never met a dead horse they didn't want to keep beating.
Hopefully your other appliances are fine. I'm not sure how you could test them other than seeing if they work. You would need to know the test points and voltages to test the individual boards other than inspecting them for burned areas. You might want to fire up the fridge with a thermometer inside to make sure that it is cooling adequately and not just "running" though.
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DrewE wrote: xnizstudio wrote: Got the SINGLE pole breaker installed and the new converter and all appliances are working without damage .
Anyone who wants to argue about the dual pole breaker being wired incorrectly can read https://www.thespruce.com/installing-a-240-volt-circuit-breaker-1824649
A dual pole breaker provides 240v. A single pole provides 120v.
I’m not an electrician and even I can google and find the above URL. The dual pole breaker was wired to supply 240v .
Bunch of ignorant people on here arguing about how it was wired incorrectly.. feel free to read the above URL
The claim is not that the breaker itself was wired incorrectly, but rather that the receptacle was wired incorrectly. A dual pole breaker is required for a 240V circuit (in North America), but that's not the only thing it can be used to power. It could also be applied to a pair of otherwise unrelated 120V circuits sharing a neutral, as in some areas is or at least was relatively common. It could be used to feed a subpanel which has 120V or 240V circuits. It could indeed also be used to feed a single 120V circuit, though it's rather silly to do so as a single pole breaker is smaller and less expensive.
At any rate, I'm glad you've gotten it all sorted out, and I'm genuinely sorry for the number of people who jumped on you for no good reason.
The arguement has been that the wiring was incorrect which is false. Like you said, you can wire a 240v breaker to put out 120v, but thats not really the best practice. The main issue is that I had a dual pole breaker, when it should have been a single.
The wiring was fine at the breaker box and even to the outlet. The issue is that the dual pole breaker should have been a single. As soon as we swapped the breaker, everything worked fine. So.. again, as I've stated a dozen times, it was the incorrect breaker.
Either way, lesson learned.
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p220sigman wrote: Thanks for the story. Don't let the negative people on here get you down. There are some on here that never met a dead horse they didn't want to keep beating.
Hopefully your other appliances are fine. I'm not sure how you could test them other than seeing if they work. You would need to know the test points and voltages to test the individual boards other than inspecting them for burned areas. You might want to fire up the fridge with a thermometer inside to make sure that it is cooling adequately and not just "running" though.
Everything seems okay! AC is still working and the refrigerator was cold this morning when I woke up.
It seems I got lucky
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